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Old 02-12-2004, 04:06 AM   #1
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Are there any other ways, than using a Hudy-style setup system, to measure toe?

I do have Schumacher setup wheels and camber measure tool.
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Are there any other ways, than using a Hudy-style setup system, to measure toe?

I do have Schumacher setup wheels and camber measure tool.
Stand your car up so it is vertical. Use your camber gauge.......it is now measauring toe in....works for the rear...the front is a little more difficult!
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Stand your car up so it is vertical. Use your camber gauge.......it is now measauring toe in....works for the rear...the front is a little more difficult!
Quite reasonably. But it's the front toe, which is most interesting to me And I'm using a front bumper, which aint so easy to dismount....
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Thanks, but it seems I must be more specific in my asking: Preferable I would use what I already got. Alternatively, I will buy an Hudy replica, which is avaible around here for a good price.
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Cole: no prob....

But, this is MUCH easier to use....
No set-up wheels, no bolting anything on...

Just set it on there and go....

These can be found used for a good price also....
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RPM make a toe guage - essentially a large pair of plastic calipers I think.

Or use a steel rule, measure the width at the front and rear of the tyres, then do a little maths.

Personally I just eyeball it, with the steel rule as a back up if my eyes are tricking me!
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Cole: no prob....

But, this is MUCH easier to use....
No set-up wheels, no bolting anything on...

Just set it on there and go....

These can be found used for a good price also....
Thanks.

I see your points, but I've never seen them around here in Europe/Denmark, and I prefer to inspect equipment before buying second hand.

And, as you've almost guessed, I'm on a limited budget, so I believe I'll use Sosidges suggestion and upgrade my charger instead.
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Personally I just set my toe at 0 deg. and hardly ever change it.... If I do I will go 1/2-1 turn in/out per side.....
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I just use a $5 pair of plastic callipers. Measure the inside front of the front wheel then do the same to the rear of the front wheel. The difference is your toe in/out.

I find it easier to measure in millimeters than degrees.

Just what I do

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Old 02-13-2004, 03:35 AM   #11
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I neither change my toe setting so often - but sometimes it changes "automatically" during a crash, and then it's nice to control and correct.

I believe that my setup wheels and a caliper will serve me well. Maybe with some math to get it in degrees. Because this way I can compare to others.

In addition, I'll measure from a fixed center point on the cahssis, so I can ensure to have equal setting from side to side.
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In the AE TC3 setup guide there is a page that you lay your car on top. You line the side of the car up with one line and there are two other lines, one for each wheel. The wheel lines are at 0 and 2 which are not usefor for front toe out, so I made my own for -.5 and -1.0 degree toe out.

In addition I set the steering with this piece of paper. It is acurate enough, that the car steers down the straightway without trimming the steering on the radio.

I don't use set up wheels for this, the standard Jaco wheel will work.

The first one I made was with hand drafting tools, and it worked fine with no problems. Since then I have drawn up the paper guage using a CAD system. The CAD system and printer are really accurate, but the printer stretchs the paper. On an A size piece of paper, the effect is minimal.
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In the AE TC3 setup guide there is a page that you lay your car on top. You line the side of the car up with one line and there are two other lines, one for each wheel. The wheel lines are at 0 and 2 which are not usefor for front toe out, so I made my own for -.5 and -1.0 degree toe out.

In addition I set the steering with this piece of paper. It is acurate enough, that the car steers down the straightway without trimming the steering on the radio.

I don't use set up wheels for this, the standard Jaco wheel will work.

The first one I made was with hand drafting tools, and it worked fine with no problems. Since then I have drawn up the paper guage using a CAD system. The CAD system and printer are really accurate, but the printer stretchs the paper. On an A size piece of paper, the effect is minimal.
Quite interesting. Is there a link, where I can download this paper - it's a little overkill to buy a TC3, just to get that paper
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Default TC-3 set up guide!

You can buy the set up quide without the car. Go to TeamAssociated's website. I bought mine with a credit card for $3.95 US and they sent me a big .pdf file. The part number is #3847. The whole thing is 49 pages. It is not a manual on how to build the car. It is 49 pages on how to make adjustments and what they do. At one time when I was new in the hobby it was extremely helpful. Now I just it as a reference when needed.
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I use the TC3 style of setting toe also I made a custom sheet and put charts and cool stuff on it and taped it to the bottom of a piece of glass and use it for my setup board. I always set my toe to zero so this works great and is fast so I check it every run. Here is what I use.
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