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Old 09-20-2009, 12:32 AM   #1
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do you really need tools (other than allen drivers) to set a car up? i m talking about things like a integy alignment set up and things like that. or better yet what tools do you need to set a onroad 1/10 car to track right?
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You want a setup station, tweak station, ride height gauges, droop gauges and weight scale.

A setup station will allow you to set the angles of all 4 tires (camber, toe, track width) A tweak station like the one included in the Hudy All-in-One checks that all 4 corners are in the same plane. There are other tweak stations like the PPD Billet that check chassis tweak.
Ride height, pretty self explanatory, checks distance between the chassis and ground.
Droop gauges check how far the arm falls in relation to your ride height. Droop allows the ability to change how much weight transfer can happen on or off power.
Weight scale, you dont want to be underweight, as thats cheating, and you don't want to be overweight unless it gains an advantage somehow (not usually)

I recommend downloading the Hudy Setup guide here


Other tools that may be useful:
Tire warmers such as the Much More Tire Warmers
Tire Truer if running foam tires.
Calipers
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You want a setup station, tweak station, ride height gauges, droop gauges and weight scale.

A setup station will allow you to set the angles of all 4 tires (camber, toe, track width) A tweak station like the one included in the Hudy All-in-One checks that all 4 corners are in the same plane. There are other tweak stations like the PPD Billet that check chassis tweak.
Ride height, pretty self explanatory, checks distance between the chassis and ground.
Droop gauges check how far the arm falls in relation to your ride height. Droop allows the ability to change how much weight transfer can happen on or off power.
Weight scale, you dont want to be underweight, as thats cheating, and you don't want to be overweight unless it gains an advantage somehow (not usually)

I recommend downloading the Hudy Setup guide here


Other tools that may be useful:
Tire warmers such as the Much More Tire Warmers
Tire Truer if running foam tires.
Calipers
Far too much stuff!

You can set your car up better than with a "setup system" with a flat board, a ride height gauge and a camber gauge. Droop gauge (and blocks) and a vernier caliper are useful too. All for a lot less money.
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the camber gauge is notoriously imprecise, especially with used wheels.

Setup station is not a luxury but a necessity, also for front toe in/out.
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Sosidge: I would recommend a setup station vs a camber gauge as most tires do not spin completely true. Therefore one may setup the camber and toe differently on all 4 corners.

EDIT: saw Heritic posted the same thoughts as well about setup stations.

Also. The Hudy-All-in-One comes with most of the needed tools: Camber/Toe gauges, ride height, droop blocks and droop gauges.

Other than that..you listed about the same number of items I have mentioned
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If you are new to the onroad scene I would suggest set up tools in this order, must haves are ride height gauge, camber gauge, droop measurement tool(assoc. makes a good inexpensive one) and a perfectly flat board.
As time goes on and your experience increases, look for a set up system(like Integy/Hudy), droop blocks and gauge. Also a made for the hobby set up board. For checking tweak I still use my old bubble style gauge and a piece of glass. A scale for checking weight is nice but since you wont need it all the time try to borrow one, and also Harbor Freight has a decent digital scale that goes on sale for about 17 bucks
Like I said if your new, get the basics and ask a experienced racer at the track for help, if they have a set up system ask him how it works or maybe he will even throw it on if they have the time. Also XXXmain makes a excellent chassis set up guide.
And remember your best tool is track time.

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