R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 02-15-2004, 03:23 PM   #166
Tech Apprentice
 
Join Date: Dec 2003
Posts: 64
Default

His ebay name is: one_problem_montoya. And no, he's not a friend of a friend.
jay272 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-18-2004, 03:54 PM   #167
Tech Elite
 
seaball's Avatar
R/C Tech Charter Subscriber
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 4,303
Trader Rating: 9 (100%+)
Send a message via Yahoo to seaball
Default

yeah,

it's easy to get spoiled at the gate. i guess the sheer volume of racers that we see is not representative of what most other locations do. i have definitely conveyed my thankfulness for our facility to our owners.

regardless of the logistics, i am still trying to find a more cost effective means getting foam on the corners of my car.

currently, i am awaiting the printed results of the lab tests, and some samples and data sheets of the matching material from a supplier. next comes the pricing. all probing may come to a halt at this point, but at least i may have a better idea of the material costs.
__________________
*** The Gate II - Home of Mike Wise ***
seaball is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2004, 02:40 PM   #168
Tech Regular
 
hyperformance's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: knoxville, TN
Posts: 369
Default

don't blame the LHS, he uses a distributor to get parts cause it's easier to do business this way, don't blame the foam maufacturer as they sell the foams cheap to the distubutor. the middleman is the issue. everyone invovled is trying to make $3, 3 poeple involed makes foams go from $10 to $19. i work at a motorcycle/ jetski shop for years, we got everything we need from 3 distributers, this is much easier the dealing direct with 1000's of maunfacturers.

seaball is award your enterprising sprit, but if you want a better deal on tires get your self a business license for a hobbyshop and start calling distributers or foam tire manufaturers. you'll find this will be much simplier than trying to re-invent the RC tire! you could even sell some tires to make a $1 or $2 yourself.

on the BSR tires: they are great tires, uses the same foam as TM i pretty sure. but the new (larger) TM wheels bust easily
hyperformance is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-19-2004, 09:28 PM   #169
Tech Master
 
lazarus's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: New England
Posts: 1,128
Trader Rating: 11 (100%+)
Default Foams

Give the guys at www.evolutionhobbies.com an email, they have Eligi, Jaco, Kawada and Speedmind foams and drift tires. They are'nt posted on the site but they will help you out if they can.
lazarus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2004, 11:01 AM   #170
Tech Rookie
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Cleveland, Ohio
Posts: 18
Default

Chris - Great thread! I just stumbled on to it. Obviously we have been talking about it and I think you are on the right track as far as trying to find a better way. You just can't compete with the guys w/ the unlimited amount of tires. Good luck! Why don't you get a big group of guys from the track go in on some foam from BSR and pool the money together and get a discount? The one guy said you could use the rear 1/10th scale foams and make 2pr. out of them. It seems like there are a lot of options, but all of this research costs money and that is what you are trying to save! The only true way to make this work is to find a supplier in Asia, or Hong Kong and start a distributership. This is basically what speedmind has done, but there product is not as good as the other brands. Anyway good job at trying to come up with a solution and I hope you do, this is a very important issue. This is part of the reason why I don't race carpet anymore. With offroad I can use a set of tires for more than half a season!

P.S. Have you talked w/ Bud at all about this, he may be able to help or offer some suggestion. I know he has a line of foam tires for his cars.
TurboUrbo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2004, 11:55 AM   #171
Tech Regular
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: somewhere in the north of england
Posts: 347
Default

Or if you guys lobbied roar or your sanctioning body to limit the costs of tyres for the class then that would help. The brca has cost rules on tyres in the uk if you are interested. Check out the www.brca.org
Smoking motor.. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2004, 12:21 PM   #172
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
Posts: 153
Trader Rating: 4 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to wagnerov Send a message via Yahoo to wagnerov
Default

The funny part about all the HK online stores selling the foam tires is that they charge more for U.S. buyers (assuming US $7.50 per pair times HK$7.80 = $HK58.50, you do the rest) than they do for their local customers. On my visit there on business last week, for the fourth time, I bought some Ellegis for HK$100/set of 4. Would have been less if I bought more. Hell, if I were a shop owner over there, I'd get together with other shops and raise prices a little bit to make more money...it would still be cheaper than cost from most U.S. distributors! Keep in mind you can get Enneti foams for pretty cheap in the U.S.

And it's the exchange rate being fixed in China, HK, and Taiwan that's responsible for the "cheap" prices. It's been the same for the past 8 years, I think. HK folks go through distributors just like U.S. shops do. With the U.S. dollar weakening abroad, I doubt tire prices will go down anytime soon.

On another note, seeing silicone tires mentioned reminded me of the old dirt oval days! Glad those are gone. heh
__________________
---
RCFIA.com - Northern California Formula 1 Racing

Last edited by wagnerov; 02-20-2004 at 12:29 PM.
wagnerov is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2004, 12:25 PM   #173
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Sunnyvale, CA
Posts: 153
Trader Rating: 4 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to wagnerov Send a message via Yahoo to wagnerov
Default

BTW, imposing a price limit on tires is dumb. For instance, they have a retail price limit on stock motors, and all manufacturers do is just have the same retail price for most of their motors and vary the discount to dealers (witness Trinity's standard and pro motors as an example). All it would do is reduce profit for hobby shops even further...
__________________
---
RCFIA.com - Northern California Formula 1 Racing
wagnerov is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2004, 01:15 PM   #174
Tech Initiate
 
chubbsrugby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Holdin down the "330" A-Town
Posts: 17
Default THIS IS GREAT!!!!!

THIS IS GREAT!!!!

I LOVE THIS THREAD!!!
As a comrad of seaball I must say,WOW, secound I think that the idea behind this is not to take on the big company's or e local hobby shops, we are all looking for a diffrent answer to the question, Why so much? The answer is close, but time, research, and personal cost are at stake, we are all mosly in he same positions, we love to race we love the hobbie, it costs money! I believe our dedcation to this is the only way to get answers. We must do the work. All I can say for company's is the fact that thery are in business. Business changes they way people once like us look at things.....
chubbsrugby is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2004, 10:54 AM   #175
Tech Addict
 
mistercrash's Avatar
R/C Tech Charter Subscriber
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Guelph, Canada eh!
Posts: 721
Trader Rating: 5 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by Jack Rimer
Rubatex, the domestic source used for years, is closing April 2 for good.
Isn't RUBATEX used in the fabrication of wet suits?

Seaball - How's the search going? Did you find anything promising?

Mr Rimer - Anyone who wants an R/C toy has the opportunity to buy it RTR or in kit form and assemble it themselves. Wouldn't it be nice if we, the hardcore racers, had the opportunity to buy sets of foams in "kit" form? I would be happy to get a small slab of foam, big enough for four tires, at a small price and have the opportunity to cut donuts out of it myself, glue them on my rims and true them if this would save me a considerable amount of money over the course of a racing season.
Is this concept ludicrous or would it be possible for a company like yours to distribute small slabs of foam at a low prices for racers who are willing to do some work to save a few bucks.

Just my $0.02 (Take it before I spend it on foams)
__________________
No brain, no headaches.
mistercrash is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2004, 11:08 AM   #176
Tech Elite
 
seaball's Avatar
R/C Tech Charter Subscriber
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Posts: 4,303
Trader Rating: 9 (100%+)
Send a message via Yahoo to seaball
Default

hey mister,

the search has been on halt for a while. march was spent prepping for the roar nats, and i haven't put much thought back into it just yet. a friend of mine basically handed me 150 used touring tires to get some use out of. i should be good till christmas, now.

i last left off being dissappointed by a shipment of foam that i had received from someone that claimed to have a match. they've got extensive labs for testing, but it appears that they passed that up and made some assumptions that were wrong. long story short, i got the samples and they don't even smell the same as what we use. which said to me, that the chemical makeup wasn't even close. not mention the durometer, which actually was close.

i screwed around with some traction compounds, but they wouldn't even react with the foam. i believe it was purely synthetic.

i should resume my quest, but am not committing to it just yet. although, it is summer, and indoor stuff is near dead here. we'll see.
__________________
*** The Gate II - Home of Mike Wise ***
seaball is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-10-2004, 11:16 AM   #177
Tech Addict
 
mistercrash's Avatar
R/C Tech Charter Subscriber
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Guelph, Canada eh!
Posts: 721
Trader Rating: 5 (100%+)
Default

Thanks for the quick response Seaball Now if Mr. Rimer is not to busy, a response from him would be great, espacially if it was positive Maybe I'll PM him.
__________________
No brain, no headaches.
mistercrash is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2004, 03:39 PM   #178
Tech Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 845
Trader Rating: 5 (100%+)
Default

Foam tires can be found a Serpent USA $4.95/ pair. Just got a box of 20+ tires, great for club racing and lots of practice. They have rubber tires for 6.95 / pair. Who says tires are expensive....?
vadn1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2004, 05:08 PM   #179
Tech Champion
 
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Mongville
Posts: 6,979
Trader Rating: 9 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally posted by vadn1
Foam tires can be found a Serpent USA $4.95/ pair. Just got a box of 20+ tires, great for club racing and lots of practice. They have rubber tires for 6.95 / pair. Who says tires are expensive....?
What brand is this, and are they mounted and trued?
__________________
12th Scale - The premier class (if you can make runtime)
Besercoe is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-12-2004, 05:57 PM   #180
Tech Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Houston, Texas
Posts: 845
Trader Rating: 5 (100%+)
Default

Ellegi foams and Ellegi rubber mounted and unmounted, I opted for mounted. 26mm width, 64mm ~ 65mm diameter. They seem like they are trued to me..... $10 for a full set, Im not going to complain...


They fit perfect on my T1R.
vadn1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
F/S: New buggy tire & foam tire lot!! Dasupacat1 R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 7 06-28-2008 11:32 PM
Rubber Tire vs. Foam Tire on Carpet dizzy1 Electric On-Road 34 06-07-2005 02:51 PM
1/12 pan car FOAM TIRE LOT Arun R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 3 10-03-2004 10:29 AM
foam tire Q's dado11g Electric On-Road 8 10-03-2004 04:01 AM
1/10 pan car FOAM TIRE LOT Arun R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 4 09-28-2004 08:35 PM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 09:38 AM.


Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net