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Old 02-02-2004, 10:16 AM   #31
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i searchered for good buys on hakko's when i found the CircuitSpecialist irons, i thought it was to good to be true so i called them, one of the guys basiclly told me it was the same station as the Hakko 936ESD, it just has a new faceplate on it, if you download the specs of the Hakko and replacement part#'s you'll see they are the same product. the tip that comes with the CircuitSpecialist is to big for RC work, so pick-up a smaller one, Hakko and Xtronic tips will fit the iron. if you're worried about the iron breaking (from pressure)all irons will give when hot and too much pressure is applied. we've got 2 wellers (one is top of the line) that are epoxied back together from this! CircuitSpecialist also has great deals on tip cleaners (which work much better than sponges) spools of solder, caps, ect..... i will say one thing i have noticed about this iron compared to a Weller WES51, both heat to the same temperature but since the Hakko look-a-like is lower wattage it allows more heat to be drawn from the tip. this means occationally you have to put it down and let some heat build backup in the tip. this only seems to be a problem when building battery packs & can be partilly remidied by using a quality paste flux.
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Old 02-02-2004, 10:27 AM   #32
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I would go with the Hakko only because I have one. You don't need the ESD Safe one unless you are going to be working on your speed controls of recievers. And that goes only for the inside of those electronics. The Hakko is great and is used by many " top dog" racers.
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Old 02-02-2004, 12:43 PM   #33
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i searchered for good buys on hakko's when i found the CircuitSpecialist irons, i thought it was to good to be true so i called them, one of the guys basiclly told me it was the same station as the Hakko 936ESD, it just has a new faceplate on it, if you download the specs of the Hakko and replacement part#'s you'll see they are the same product. the tip that comes with the CircuitSpecialist is to big for RC work, so pick-up a smaller one, Hakko and Xtronic tips will fit the iron. if you're worried about the iron breaking (from pressure)all irons will give when hot and too much pressure is applied. we've got 2 wellers (one is top of the line) that are epoxied back together from this! CircuitSpecialist also has great deals on tip cleaners (which work much better than sponges) spools of solder, caps, ect..... i will say one thing i have noticed about this iron compared to a Weller WES51, both heat to the same temperature but since the Hakko look-a-like is lower wattage it allows more heat to be drawn from the tip. this means occationally you have to put it down and let some heat build backup in the tip. this only seems to be a problem when building battery packs & can be partilly remidied by using a quality paste flux.
You can let this iron heat up all you want, it isn't up to the task of battery assembly. You shouldn't need excess flux to justify this iron. It's great for light duty but for batteries, there are better choices.
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Old 02-02-2004, 02:09 PM   #34
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I got my 936 through these guys and they're very good. My order was delayed a couple days and they threw in a nice flush cutter to make up for it.

They also threw in a tip cleaner ($10 value) with the order and took care of shipping.

I'd go back to them in a heartbeat.

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Old 02-02-2004, 03:47 PM   #35
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You can let this iron heat up all you want, it isn't up to the task of battery assembly. You shouldn't need excess flux to justify this iron. It's great for light duty but for batteries, there are better choices.
i use the Weller for building packs. but my point was that if the CircuitSpecailist isn't up to the job then neither is the Hakko cause they are the same. you might as well get the Weller 51. I am not a fan of wellers cause they usually fall apart, ours is taped, epoxied, JBwelded, and screwed together, for $125 they should hold-up better. I bought the CircuitSpecailist cause it was the same as the Hakko (which i always wanted) at a lesser price, and parts for it are cheap to replace. it will build packs, but not at the speed of the Weller.

what do you recommend for building packs, or what do you use?
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Ok, I too saw this iron......but I went and purchased it.......I opted for the fully digital one which is also ESD safe, for 49.99........works just as good as my friends Hakko, only difference is mine came with a needle tip. I am ordering a larger tip......besides that it works great. Heats up fast too.

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I just want to point out that the tip included is rather small (900M-T-1.6D). You probably want to pick up the 900M-T-S3. You get more contact area to apply more heat.
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After all this discussion, I am going to go with the CircuitSpecialist. I could have sworn that the Hakko 936 and it were the same, and I was right! True RC Racing, you should do the same thing, now that it is confirmed that they are the same irons.

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Old 02-02-2004, 08:17 PM   #39
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Can't go wrong with a Weller. Variable current, large OR small tip.
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I have the circuitspecialist soldering station unit itself for sale if anyone wants it, that way you only have to buy a 11 dollar iron. The unit is in mint condition.
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back from the snowbirds guys. umm yea i will look into I havent ordered teh hakko yet. too busy on my car for birds
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I have the circuitspecialist soldering station unit itself for sale if anyone wants it, that way you only have to buy a 11 dollar iron. The unit is in mint condition.
The only problem is that all their 11 dollar irons are sold out. Does anyone know what the difference is between the heavy duty iron and the regular iron?

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i saw over the kie***website the 69.99$ hakko the iron is not the same. Its a smaller Diameter one. i dont want that.
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What do you mean? Why did you *** the sub in kiesub?
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forgot the name i remmeber those letters was too lazy to look.
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