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Old 04-15-2018, 11:00 AM
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I need some of your opinions guys;

When I did the mold for the Protoform Pro10 Swift I intentionally made it a bit narrow - especially in the front. The only "big" Pro10 events scheduled in North America at that time were indoor on-carpet events. I envisioned the super wide Pro10 cars being a bit tricky to
navigate around the narrow lanes and tight corners. As it turned out it was a bit too narrow for everyone's liking. Now that the awesome Steel City RC track will run the class, I've decided to do a wider version. Maybe I'll pick up some sales in Europe/Scandanavia where
they run slightly wider cars outdoors exclusively.

In your opinion, how wide should the next Pro10 body be across the front wheel openings and across the rear wheel openings? Please share your thoughts. Thanks in advance!

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Old 04-15-2018, 11:33 AM
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Dale,

good to hear this news!!

I would say:

(both measured from the inside of the body)

FRONT: between 215 - 220mm
REAR: 240mm

Also some more front wheel clearance in the wheelwell would be nice so that somewhat larger front wheels can be used...
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Originally Posted by daleepp View Post
I need some of your opinions guys;

When I did the mold for the Protoform Pro10 Swift I intentionally made it a bit narrow - especially in the front. The only "big" Pro10 events scheduled in North America at that time were indoor on-carpet events. I envisioned the super wide Pro10 cars being a bit tricky to
navigate around the narrow lanes and tight corners. As it turned out it was a bit too narrow for everyone's liking. Now that the awesome Steel City RC track will run the class, I've decided to do a wider version. Maybe I'll pick up some sales in Europe/Scandanavia where
they run slightly wider cars outdoors exclusively.

In your opinion, how wide should the next Pro10 body be across the front wheel openings and across the rear wheel openings? Please share your thoughts. Thanks in advance!

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Dale if you have facebook you should come over to here https://www.facebook.com/groups/7575...56171/?fref=nf and post this there also. We love to have Protoform there to help grow the class.
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Most of the people i Race with run a split of 15mm
between front and rear. I usually have 235mm rear and 220mm front, so my prefered Body is like
240mm rear and 225mm or 230mm front.
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Mounting wide on the chassis 98mm and then put on the Associated R5 front suspension on it and add 2mm on both sides.
That is the narrowes wide.
Now make the body that it has enough room to make the car even a bit wider without the tires getting outside the body.
Then your wide enough on the front
Or use the Mix Nissan front wide.
That is about the same as i mentioned

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I need some of your opinions guys;

In your opinion, how wide should the next Pro10 body be across the front wheel openings and across the rear wheel openings? Please share your thoughts. Thanks in advance!

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Originally Posted by Pro10noob View Post
Mounting wide on the chassis 98mm and then put on the Associated R5 front suspension on it and add 2mm on both sides.
That is the narrowest wide.
Now make the body that it has enough room to make the car even a bit wider without the tires getting outside the body.
Then you're wide enough on the front
Or use the Mix Nissan front wide.
That is about the same as I mentioned

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Do you have a ruler so we can see the measurement of the front of the Mix Nissan body?
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Unfortionatly not at this moment.
Everything is in storage and i need to get things out again.
Will check ASAP

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Do you have a ruler so we can see the measurement of the front of the Mix Nissan body?
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If it is clearly dedicated to outdoor, 238mm in the rear and 228mm in the front would be nice.
Dale, on my side, with specific pancars, like my prototype or Vorlon/VTE, the Swift body is quite unusable because it is also too short, these cars wheelbase being 270mm instead of 260mm. 10mm more in the rear would be nice :-)
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Originally Posted by daleepp View Post
In your opinion, how wide should the next Pro10 body be across the front wheel openings and across the rear wheel openings? Please share your thoughts. Thanks in advance!

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Dale, we've found your 905B to be pretty close width-wise. Maybe 222mm front and 235mm rear would be a bit easier to work with.

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Hi Dale,
I thought that I'd mention that in addition to SCS, we will be running outdoor Pro10 at WSR, SWR and Roadrunners this season. So we have at least 4 California locations getting onboard with Pro10. I'd imagine that we will start to see the tracks in Florida and Ohio hosting Pro10 as well. I for one would like to see 2 10th scale classes run on the carpet... 200mm and 235mm as that will bring in the LMP Scale looking group as well as the all out Pro10, but that's just me.
Anyway, thanks for being so accommodating.
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Also add Cal Raceway in Orange to that list of growing Pro10 interest and activity

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Hi Dale,
I thought that I'd mention that in addition to SCS, we will be running outdoor Pro10 at WSR, SWR and Roadrunners this season. So we have at least 4 California locations getting onboard with Pro10. I'd imagine that we will start to see the tracks in Florida and Ohio hosting Pro10 as well. I for one would like to see 2 10th scale classes run on the carpet... 200mm and 235mm as that will bring in the LMP Scale looking group as well as the all out Pro10, but that's just me.
Anyway, thanks for being so accommodating.
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With my VIP VTE on the US tracks i run my front end out pretty wide 230-235ish, We prep and spray our tracks over here and it calms down the front end immensely. For me at least i'd love to see a body 240mm rear, 230 front and enough clearance to run 60mm tires...

Is the VBC,roche, or any other cars longer wheelbase like my VIP?
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Not from what I know, but from what I've seen on the Vorlon and the VTE it is an interesting advantage, so my prototype also have 270mm
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for what it's worth, I'd just as soon see this class not get divided to the point of multiple version or classes 235mm max period
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Originally Posted by miller tyme View Post
for what it's worth, I'd just as soon see this class not get divided to the point of multiple version or classes 235mm max period
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They're talking wheelbase, aren't they?
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