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Old 01-25-2010, 03:31 PM   #571
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I love running the Gen XL and for the past three race events I have been having problems with the car not being able to run properly. The problem that I am having with the car is that when I am running the car it is twitchy as hell. When I give it full power the car will go everywhere but straight and when I do try to turn the car is will spin out everytime when trying to enter the infield. I have changed all bearings, replaced the side springs, replaced all the worn out front suspension parts, and springs etc. The problem still persists!!!!!

Can someone please explain how to properly adjust front suspension for maximum performance. I would appreciate in comments and suggestions on this matter.

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Try using lighter damper tube lubricant, or take some preload off of the side springs. If you're using lubricant on the front king pins, use lighter lubricant there too. Make sure you check the center pivot to make sure it's not binding, and check the rear axle to make sure that it rotates freely in its bearings - there should be a TINY amount of end play if you move the axle from side to side; if there's no end play, the axle might bind when you apply side loading in turns, causing the car to spin.
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I love running the Gen XL and for the past three race events I have been having problems with the car not being able to run properly. The problem that I am having with the car is that when I am running the car it is twitchy as hell. When I give it full power the car will go everywhere but straight and when I do try to turn the car is will spin out everytime when trying to enter the infield. I have changed all bearings, replaced the side springs, replaced all the worn out front suspension parts, and springs etc. The problem still persists!!!!!

Can someone please explain how to properly adjust front suspension for maximum performance. I would appreciate in comments and suggestions on this matter.

Thanks,

Derek S.
well, i built my car to the assembly and was very good right out the gate. you sound like you have alot of tweak in the rear pod to me. what compound tires are you using?
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Old 01-25-2010, 03:34 PM   #573
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I found that these break pretty easily on a track with wooden markers. There is anoter way to solve this if you don't want to get the 4mm one. I put pivot balls instead of screws in the holes at the ends of the top plate. Then run a turnbuckle across.
Pretty innovative solution...

However, the 4mm top brace is the best solution - not only does it keep the top brace from breaking under impact, but helps keep the motor in the right place in the event of a crash.
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Hey guys,


I love running the Gen XL and for the past three race events I have been having problems with the car not being able to run properly. The problem that I am having with the car is that when I am running the car it is twitchy as hell. When I give it full power the car will go everywhere but straight and when I do try to turn the car is will spin out everytime when trying to enter the infield. I have changed all bearings, replaced the side springs, replaced all the worn out front suspension parts, and springs etc. The problem still persists!!!!!

Can someone please explain how to properly adjust front suspension for maximum performance. I would appreciate in comments and suggestions on this matter.

Thanks,

Derek S.
Check your diff for slippage and proper adjustment as well.
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Old 01-25-2010, 06:55 PM   #575
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I have a new Gen XL is the classified section forsale if anyone is interested,
http://www.rctech.net/forum/r-c-item...xl-spares.html
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Hi,

Decided to post here since I got no replies from the CRC forum, over 80 views though.

Problem i have right now is with a Tekin Redline 10.5. Looks like this motor is slightly longer then the last one i had from Novak. The pod i have is the one attached. I cannot seem to get the sensor wire to connect from the back of the motor casue it is way too close to the left bulk head.

I have turned the motor every way possible and nothing works. When I do force it in there i think the sensor wires must short on the bulkhead and i get stuttering happening.

So debating on getting the open pod thats on the XL.

Thoughts suggestions?

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Old 01-26-2010, 08:53 AM   #577
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I have a Gen-XL and a Tekin Redline 10.5, and have no problem. I've checked and if I used the same left pod plate as yours I'd still have no problem. The only thing I can think of is you're using the old narrower pod, but it doesn't look like it from the photo.

Could you measure the distance from the end of the motor to the left pod plate please. Mine is 7.5mm, or just under 3/8 inch.

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Old 01-26-2010, 09:10 AM   #578
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7.5!!! really, man something is not right then... I have maybe 1 mil, maybe I will take a pic of my own car and post it.

Something just isnt right.

I was wondering if maybe i could use my RS sensorless with a sensored wire, so just not use the sensor wire??

Will post up later tonight with pic.
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You could run your RS sensorless but you'd lose all timing adjustments, so it is far better to run sensored.

While I'm at it, my measurement from inside of left pod side to inside of right pod side is 60mm. If yours is less you have the old narrow pod.

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Sounds like the car is using the older narrow pod - the easy way to check would be to mount the motor in the pod (no sensor wire for the time being) and see where the motor sits relative to the car's centerline. If the motor doesn't appear to be "centered", it's the older pod. If I remember correctly, the older Gen X pod was designed to center a brushed motor properly, but will cause fitment issues with a brushless motor.
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Old 01-26-2010, 11:54 AM   #581
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Ya i think thats what it must be.. the older pod.

So what could i do now? rather then buying the XL, is there a pod conversion I can get?

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Old 01-26-2010, 12:42 PM   #582
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Use this conversion kit to rectify the issue:

3349 - Pod Conversion - Retail $49.99
(Includes bottom plate, top plate, x-brace, & diff hub)
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Great thanks, I will look into it.
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Ashford hobby has it for a good price http://ashfordhobby.com/detail.aspx?ID=6674 He ships items out the next day great place to deal.
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Here is the pod that I have.

Hopefully you can see the picture ok.

So I am guessing that I need to get the bigger pod mentioned above.

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