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Old 08-31-2009, 02:45 PM   #166
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Cost of racing has always been an issue with onroad... Some suggest spec tires but the tire limit is ridiculously high which imo is counter productive....

I watched a spec race where the spec tires were around $29.00 but everyone I talked to bought at least 7 sets for the race.... Thats a lot of $$$ for one weekend just for tires alone!
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Old 08-31-2009, 02:52 PM   #167
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Yip I agree that if a spec tyre is used then they should be limited to 3 or maybe 4 sets maximum to be used for the quallies and mains.
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Old 08-31-2009, 05:29 PM   #168
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See- once you start dumping the cost to 200.00, i think your posing a problem.

I have been a pretty hardcore racer for the past 10 years or so- even though i have been "off" for a couple years.. Coming back, i intend to compete nationally..

with that said- i cant justify a completely spec class. I mean, we have mini coopers for that.
The chassis would have to be somewhat on par with todays top cars... which, IMHO dont need to cost 500.00.

Losi and AE both put out some impressive kits quality wise and neither of them are ridiculously priced.

and truthfully, if there was a cap on the price of the chassis- OR-- a rule that says no NEW pro chassis over X amount.. that might be appealing.

By that i mean, you can run the 007 and 008, but not the 009.. or something to that effect.

this would encourage people to spend less on the chassis. AND it would stop a lot of sales of the new kits that cost so much-- perhaps, driving the cost down?


NOW- your remarks on the cost of BL. Last time i went to Cleveland- in 2005... i bought 4 handout motors on top of the two I was Handed out. Most of these motors were duds.. and used for practice.. or simply thrown away. Infact, just this past winter when i bought all BL stuff, i threw a whole box of stock and 19t motors out.. LOL..

the point-- the BL motor lasts,, well... for like- ever. Motor companies are not dumb, and they know they will not be selling motors by the case anymore.. SO- the cost goes up a little. In return, I no longer have to roll to a race with 50 pairs of F brush, or 767 and a gross of springs...

Brushless and Lipo are two reasons I came back.
Spec. mini class? I don't think so. I just want a decent looking car to race at the club level,
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Old 08-31-2009, 05:37 PM   #169
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RossoTorro, Thank you for those links for the brushless motors and esc.
I will pass those on to my friends. That's more like it price wise!
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nagatahawk, you represent the majority of on-road racers out there and I am with you on this. Most of us are quite happy to race at the club level and to us having a reasonably quick class of cars to race that have super realistic bodies and wheels is all we ask. Most are'nt interested in racing at the national level, they can't afford it and don't have the time to dedicate to that level of racing. Leave that to the guys who want the $400-500 touring cars with the run-out sheets, the tire truers, the laptops, $500 chargers, $300+ dollar bl motor/esc, etc. etc.

We club-racers don't have super deep pockets and appreciate a cost-controlled series (not neccessarily a spec class, just cost-controlled) where each time we show up to race we know we each have a realistic chance of winning. Does'nt get much better then that!
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nagatahawk, you represent the majority of on-road racers out there and I am with you on this. Most of us are quite happy to race at the club level and to us having a reasonably quick class of cars to race that have super realistic bodies and wheels is all we ask. Most are'nt interested in racing at the national level, they can't afford it and don't have the time to dedicate to that level of racing. Leave that to the guys who want the $400-500 touring cars with the run-out sheets, the tire truers, the laptops, $500 chargers, $300+ dollar bl motor/esc, etc. etc.

We club-racers don't have super deep pockets and appreciate a cost-controlled series (not neccessarily a spec class, just cost-controlled) where each time we show up to race we know we each have a realistic chance of winning. Does'nt get much better then that!
Yep! for instance, I purchased a slash, although i have no experience racing off road, and almost no practice time, on my second attempt, I was third qualifier and won my main. Other than a spec class were else can this possibley happen? Believe me a win in the Spec class is still exciting. Keeps me coming back! less than $200 buck for the truck, it came assemble painted, has descent looking wheels and is competitive out of the box. That's what I'm talking about. It has reinvigorated off road were SC Trucks has attracted new drivers. I hope the GT class can be as successful for on road.
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Old 09-02-2009, 06:56 PM   #172
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Amen, that's what I'm talking about! And I speak also from personal experience. I used to race at a higher level and I would spend whatever it took to do that. Along the way I got pretty good at it, but my friends who I raced with in our club dropped out one by one as they could no longer afford to keep up. Some gave up rc racing altogether, and others switched to offroad.

This is a microcosim of what has happened to on-road racing all over the world. We need to get back to cost-controlled racing that EVERYONE can afford and put the fun back in and leave the ultra-competitive stuff to the pros and wannabes. They have their place, even off-road racing has pro-level racing with factory supported drivers etc., and it's fun to watch them but most of us would rather have fun with simpler, less expensive and intensive club racing!
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Anyone know if losi is currently makeing type r parts or not? Be nice if they would update the car just little things like offer smaller spur gears and maybe slightly higher top deck for bigger lipos and redesigned top deck for the lipos with the wires from the top like smc.
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Anyone know if losi is currently makeing type r parts or not? Be nice if they would update the car just little things like offer smaller spur gears and maybe slightly higher top deck for bigger lipos and redesigned top deck for the lipos with the wires from the top like smc.
Car is discontinued so there are no updates.
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that sucks type r is a very good car
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Car is discontinued so there are no updates.
Well, at least Horizon still sells it:

http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products...Listing&Tag=PF
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Anyone know if losi is currently makeing type r parts or not? Be nice if they would update the car just little things like offer smaller spur gears and maybe slightly higher top deck for bigger lipos and redesigned top deck for the lipos with the wires from the top like smc.
There are plenty of parts out there.

As for smaller spurs: http://www.precisionracingsystems.com/products/18

As for the rest, there is a list on the Type R thread that lists lipos that will fit without mod. to chassis.
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Car is discontinued so there are no updates.
Where did you hear that rumor????
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Where did you hear that rumor????
That is what I'd like to know. It seems kinda strange that they would discontinue a car with out having a replacement waiting in the wings, unless they plan to get out of TCs all together. I haven't see or heard of any prototypes being driven by any team drivers. Derek can you give us a link to the news that says it's discontinued? Or is it insider news?
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