R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 01-30-2012, 08:51 AM   #766
Tech Champion
 
R40Victim's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: N.W. FL___L.A.___Lower Alabama
Posts: 7,823
Trader Rating: 1 (100%+)
Default

We're trying to prep one of these cars for VTA. What aftermarket spurs fit this car?
__________________
Racing Vids, on and off road:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQMhKKcaJPscYOrsPz8x-lw?view_as=subscriber
R40Victim is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2012, 12:39 PM   #767
Tech Rookie
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: Dallas, TX, USA
Posts: 10
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default Durability

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodarbal View Post
ouch, that's nearly twice as much as what I paid for my JL10e roller! Oh well, thanks for looking into it Crash!
I broke a knuckle and C carrier last weekend. VTA setup and I wasn't running particularly hard on the track though I did have some contact.

Can anyone give me a sense of how durable the JL10e is compared to other similar cars eg TA05, Sakura Zero S and the older Zrays and Associated TCs? Should I swap to a more durable vehicle is this par for the course?
Zarkon is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2012, 01:59 PM   #768
Tech Apprentice
 
Crash13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 96
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Rodarbal View Post
ouch, that's nearly twice as much as what I paid for my JL10e roller! Oh well, thanks for looking into it Crash!
yes it is not cheap, unless you can find the parts on e-bay or find a ld3 for cheap. Maybe just buy the aluminum knuckles instead.

The ld3 oneway, blade swaybar and gear diff will drop right in.
Crash13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-30-2012, 02:08 PM   #769
Tech Fanatic
 
Rodarbal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Cedar Park, TX
Posts: 968
Trader Rating: 39 (100%+)
Send a message via Yahoo to Rodarbal
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by R40Victim View Post
We're trying to prep one of these cars for VTA. What aftermarket spurs fit this car?
I've got a 65t 48p spur from HPI in mine right now.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Zarkon View Post
Can anyone give me a sense of how durable the JL10e is compared to other similar cars eg TA05, Sakura Zero S and the older Zrays and Associated TCs? Should I swap to a more durable vehicle is this par for the course?
Yeah, my boy did the same last weekend. I have a couple AE TC3s and if anything, the JL10e is as durable.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crash13 View Post
yes it is not cheap, unless you can find the parts on e-bay or find a ld3 for cheap. Maybe just buy the aluminum knuckles instead.
Luckily the Ofna plastic knuckles are cheap. I can't bring myself to pull the trigger on aluminum ones. I actually ran one weekend with HPI knuckles (my local LHS carries a bunch of HPI parts) when I didn't have any Ofna replacements. It shortened the wheelbase a bit and with the 6 knuckles it plowed like a Cat D9. Even with the HPI 4 knuckles there was some noticeable push. Eventually I went back to the Ofna knuckle setup.
__________________
RJ Labrador
Off Road Big: Mugen, Mugen & Mugen
Off Road Little: XRay & XRay
Rodarbal is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-07-2012, 07:02 PM   #770
Tech Apprentice
 
Crash13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 96
Default

Luckily the Ofna plastic knuckles are cheap. I can't bring myself to pull the trigger on aluminum ones. I actually ran one weekend with HPI knuckles (my local LHS carries a bunch of HPI parts) when I didn't have any Ofna replacements. It shortened the wheelbase a bit and with the 6 knuckles it plowed like a Cat D9. Even with the HPI 4 knuckles there was some noticeable push. Eventually I went back to the Ofna knuckle setup.[/QUOTE]

Have you tried putting them in boiling water for about 5 mins. That might help.
Crash13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2012, 09:03 AM   #771
Tech Apprentice
 
Crash13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 96
Default update

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crash13 View Post
Below is a list of parts required to change to pillow ball. Not sure if the CVDs are required. You would also need to make 2 short spacers to go on top of the diff case to mount the top plate. This may widen the suspension by 2mm overall as my CD3 seems to be 197mm wide. I included the graphite shock tower kit as I do not think the stock plastic tower would work and it is quite flexy The weak point on this setup is the graphite rear upper pin holder. they tend to break if the wheel contacts anything semi solid. The good thing is you can still run with one broken so you won't DNF a race.

Also if one wanted to convert the diffs to gears this would be possible using the LD3/CD3 parts.


Parts to Convert to Pillow ball Frt Suspension

Part # Description QTY Price

OFN38251 Diff case 1 $5.06
OFN38265 Frt Knuckle 1 $5.06
OFN38269 CVA driveshaft 1 $30.56
OFN38399 Arm set 1 $13.56
OFN39140 Pillowball set (4) 2 $10.12
OFN39141 Washer, insert 2 $6.72
OFN39150 Screw set 2 $5.06
OFN38442 Shock Tower kit 1 $42.46
OFN38261 Upper Arm shaft 1 $3.36
OFN38262 Lower Arm shaft 1 $3.36

Total Nitrohouse price $125.32
after looking a bit closer at the two cars I see this could be done a bit cheaper
Total cost
OFN38251 Diff case 1 $5.06
OFN38265 Frt Knuckle 1 $5.06
OFN38267 axle shaft, rr 2 $15.22 should be able to use stock dog
bones, may need one outer brg
OFN38399 Arm set 1 $13.56
OFN39140 Pillowball set (4) 1 $5.06
OFN39141 Washer, insert not required, come with knuckle
OFN39150 Screw set 1 $5.06
OFN38270 shock tower 1 $5.06
OFN38261 Upper Arm shaft 1 $3.36
OFN38262 Lower Arm shaft use existing parts
OFN38282 Alum ball mount 2 $10.12 (upper shock mount, could cut existing ball mount to length)
Total Nitrohouse price $62.50

Using the stock molded shock tower you lose the set of 3 inner, upper, shock mount holes, however the lower arms have 3 shock mounting holes compared to one on the JL10E arms (this is one more hole than the stock CD3 arms have)
The arm set (at least the one I received way back) had all the parts for the rear arms including the the top link ends and rods as well as a set of control arm shafts so for another $30 you could add pillowballs to the rear using the existing top link.
I may do a mock up today as I have most of the parts required as spares from the cd3. Post pics when done.
Crash13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2012, 10:48 AM   #772
Tech Apprentice
 
Crash13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 96
Default JL10 PB suspension

Pictures of pillowball suspension from CD3 installed on jl10E. Yes I cheated, I swapped from cd3 with CVA shafts and all over (swaybar too) to the JL. Note that with the molded shock tower you also lose some roll center adjustment although you could most likely drill a new set of holes if need be.
Attached Thumbnails
Ofna JL-10 E-jl10-pb-susp_18.jpg   Ofna JL-10 E-jl10-pb-susp_19.jpg   Ofna JL-10 E-jl10-pb-susp_20.jpg   Ofna JL-10 E-jl10-pb-susp_21.jpg   Ofna JL-10 E-jl10-pb-susp_22.jpg  

Crash13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 02-20-2012, 10:52 AM   #773
Tech Apprentice
 
Crash13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 96
Default JL10E PB susp. part 2

more pics...and yes I did not install all the hardware to save time. Pic 25 shows difference in the drive cups, JL10 on top, inner PB brg (stock jl10 brg inserted into PB brg as a spacer) and pb drive cup. By using stock JL cup brg as a spacer you can then use the jl10 dog bone and drive cup instead of purchasing cd3 cva shafts.

Pic 26 shows the 2 shock towers. Molded tower upper arm pin mount holes are same position as lower outer holes on stock frp shock tower.
Doing this install will gain some durability, 2mm in width (and PB smoothness but lose a bit of roll and shock adjustment.
The 2mm in width can be removed by adjusting the PB in a mm, which there is room to do. I think that you could also trim the control arms down a few mm to further narrow the track width for the guys trying to get into the 190mm class.
Attached Thumbnails
Ofna JL-10 E-jl10-pb-susp_22.jpg   Ofna JL-10 E-jl10-pb-susp_23.jpg   Ofna JL-10 E-jl10-pb-susp_24.jpg   Ofna JL-10 E-jl10-pb-susp_25.jpg   Ofna JL-10 E-jl10-pb-susp_26.jpg  


Last edited by Crash13; 02-20-2012 at 12:03 PM.
Crash13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-02-2012, 04:02 AM   #774
Tech Regular
 
St33v3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Quebec City
Posts: 272
Trader Rating: 7 (100%+)
Questions??

Hello,

If I buy:

ESC: Castle Ceations Sidewinder SCT
Motor: Neu-Castle 4 poles 3800kv

What would be a good starting point for Spur/Pinion?

I think stock spur is 82t?
__________________
Team Durango DEX410v4 Tekin RS Pro // Tekin 8.5t // Protek 100T // Square Pack SMC
Tekno SCT410 SkyRC Toro SC120A // SkyRC Toro S-Pro4 BL 3500KV // Futaba BLS351 // Stick Pack SMC
St33v3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-15-2012, 01:57 AM   #775
Tech Regular
 
St33v3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Quebec City
Posts: 272
Trader Rating: 7 (100%+)
Default

I finally ordered a 4000kv motor and 45a ESC.

And a 68t Associated spur gear.
__________________
Team Durango DEX410v4 Tekin RS Pro // Tekin 8.5t // Protek 100T // Square Pack SMC
Tekno SCT410 SkyRC Toro SC120A // SkyRC Toro S-Pro4 BL 3500KV // Futaba BLS351 // Stick Pack SMC
St33v3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2012, 09:15 PM   #776
Tech Apprentice
 
Crash13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 96
Default Exotek chassis

Got the Exotek carbon chassis. nice fit and looks great. Has a good amount of flex. only thing I do not like about it is the included battery mounting is a bit weak, aluminum posts and carbon strap is available for $16. going to fabricate my own posts and a strap out of polycarbonite. The inner battery stops are only 2 short screws with locknuts.
Crash13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-29-2012, 02:15 AM   #777
Tech Regular
 
St33v3's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Quebec City
Posts: 272
Trader Rating: 7 (100%+)
Default

A short video of my JL10e drifting. Got my Hobbywing combo this week.

I'm totally new to drifting, need practice I guess!

+ YouTube Video
ERROR: If you can see this, then YouTube is down or you don't have Flash installed.


What upgrades would help me?
__________________
Team Durango DEX410v4 Tekin RS Pro // Tekin 8.5t // Protek 100T // Square Pack SMC
Tekno SCT410 SkyRC Toro SC120A // SkyRC Toro S-Pro4 BL 3500KV // Futaba BLS351 // Stick Pack SMC
St33v3 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-24-2012, 09:19 PM   #778
Tech Addict
 
macavant's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: RC dojo
Posts: 705
Trader Rating: 64 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Crash13 View Post
Got the Exotek carbon chassis.
How does it drive ? Better handling ? It does look good (saw it from the Exotek site). I have the one for the TC5R, and its a great piece.

It would also be interesting if it saves some weight.
__________________
likes the oldskool RC action...
F201☆F104WGP☆M01.M05.YR4MSe.TA05.XV-01Pro.ABC_Genetic(Exotek)☆microRS4-Motek☆TA02SW☆WR02.CC-01.G6-01.SandScorcher☆TRF201☆TRF417X.TRF101.TRF101W
macavant is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 05-27-2012, 03:34 PM   #779
Tech Apprentice
 
Crash13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 96
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by macavant View Post
How does it drive ? Better handling ? It does look good (saw it from the Exotek site). I have the one for the TC5R, and its a great piece.

It would also be interesting if it saves some weight.
Have not been able to try it out yet as we are waiting for the outdoor races to start. It has more flex than FB chassis. As for weight it came out to 2lbs 10 oz or 1190 grams with body, no battery.
Crash13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 06-02-2012, 10:54 AM   #780
Tech Regular
 
aquito's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Oceanside CA
Posts: 264
Default

I'm gonna be buying a gl10e soon don't know if I will buy the TC or the drift version...my question is, will I have any problems fitting my gens ace hard case 2s 40c 5000mah battered in it?
aquito is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Picco .12 JL Red Dot & 30% heeltoedrver Nitro Off-Road 14 01-22-2009 07:22 PM
help me pick a engine LOW ET Onroad Nitro Engine Zone 19 12-27-2007 06:36 AM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 07:51 PM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net