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Old 01-03-2010, 10:33 AM   #106
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Today I made two quick tests with the software HW 312 and SP 107 with engine Novak 17.5.
Honestly I have not found any differences in speed between the HW 312 and HW 323 that used before, perhaps a little more thrust acceleration.
The SP 107 and instead just a timing variable as the SPX with remarkable speed but unfortunately little linearity of acceleration (equal to the SPX).
Of course I do still find the right test for FDR for the SP 107 for surely it must be different from that of HW-312 (I tried both with FDR 3.86 in short track), but my first impressions is that the SP 107 is suitable a track with long straights, while the HW 312 is superior in technical track with a few straights.
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Old 01-03-2010, 11:08 AM   #107
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Today I made two quick tests with the software HW 312 and SP 107 with engine Novak 17.5.
Honestly I have not found any differences in speed between the HW 312 and HW 323 that used before, perhaps a little more thrust acceleration.
The SP 107 and instead just a timing variable as the SPX with remarkable speed but unfortunately little linearity of acceleration (equal to the SPX).
Of course I do still find the right test for FDR for the SP 107 for surely it must be different from that of HW-312 (I tried both with FDR 3.86 in short track), but my first impressions is that the SP 107 is suitable a track with long straights, while the HW 312 is superior in technical track with a few straights.
with the 107 you need to drop your gearing by at least 5 -6 teeth compared to 312.
312 still can run the longer gearing.
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Old 01-03-2010, 11:32 AM   #108
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with the 107 you need to drop your gearing by at least 5 -6 teeth compared to 312.
312 still can run the longer gearing.


It is what I think also because the next test I will be to use a FDR of about 4.5 with SP 107 and Novak 17.5
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Old 01-03-2010, 11:57 AM   #109
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Today i tried both with my AlienPower 17.5 motor.The HW312 and the SP110.IMO the 110 is much better by far. The HW312 on full timing (26.5') and FDR 3.8 on a very big truck with a 65m straight was fast but not something special ,without punch coming out of corners and on the slower parts.With the SP-110 , timing on 15' and FDR 4.02 everything was different.I was the fastest on the staight by far and the car was feeling very punchy on the slower parts and with very good acceleration.With the SP-110 and the timing on 0 and FDR 4.02 i had the same feeling as with the HW312 with full timing and FDR 3.8. Haven't try the SP-107 yet.Maybe next Saturday.
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Old 01-03-2010, 01:50 PM   #110
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And teh hobbywing 218 software in the new update ?
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Tomorrow I am going to be running the 110 software in anger using a Fanton Ion Pro 10.5 motor in my modded cyclone-S.
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Old 01-05-2010, 05:10 AM   #112
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Today i tried both with my AlienPower 17.5 motor.The HW312 and the SP110.IMO the 110 is much better by far. The HW312 on full timing (26.5') and FDR 3.8 on a very big truck with a 65m straight was fast but not something special ,without punch coming out of corners and on the slower parts.With the SP-110 , timing on 15' and FDR 4.02 everything was different.I was the fastest on the staight by far and the car was feeling very punchy on the slower parts and with very good acceleration.With the SP-110 and the timing on 0 and FDR 4.02 i had the same feeling as with the HW312 with full timing and FDR 3.8. Haven't try the SP-107 yet.Maybe next Saturday.
bro any recommendations for 11.5?
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Old 01-05-2010, 08:46 AM   #113
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I have never ran 11.5T Sorry :-(
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Old 01-05-2010, 04:45 PM   #114
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wat about 10.5?
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Old 01-06-2010, 10:56 PM   #115
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Hi all.

My new XE120A ESCs have arrived today two days out from a big race meet. I don't have time to test out different firmware/settings so am hoping for a good starting point (FW, ESC settings gear ratio etc) for an X12 4.5T and a Duo2 13.5T motors.

The track I'll be running on has a ~50m back-straight into a reducing radius sweeper and a technical in-field. I can't post a url to a site with a picture of the track but for those interested the google map coordinates are -36.725962,174.704284

Any help would be most appreciated
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Just a little info for you guys, a team driver of mine was trying to install some S/W on his ESC last night and ended up ruining his Speed Passion ESC and Speed Passion LCD box because he was using the Hobbywing software, not the Speed Passion software.

So next time someone tells you it's the same, it's not.

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Cough Cough...Yeah, don't cross breed Hobbywing with Speedpassion. Its like mating a Chihuahua with a Saint Bernard. Don't do it! And No, they are definitely not the same.
This was posted on the SP Thread today just thought I would cross link it.
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Of course they are not the same. Xerun 120 comes with presoldered wires,in a little different case and is about 100$ cheaper. I don't know if this is bad or good for us
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If thats the case then Xerun with HW LCD box is better coz I can swap between SP n HW softwares on both units anytime without ruining anything
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If thats the case then Xerun with HW LCD box is better coz I can swap between SP n HW softwares on both units anytime without ruining anything
LOL that was my point entirely I have switched back and forth so many times with no probs, just thought I would pass on what the (Proper) people are saying. For crying out loud we have it on good authority from HW in Shen Zhen that the SP IS a HW, but that King Golden carry the rights to sell (under SP) brand everywhere OUTSIDE of China.

However as stated earlier in the Thread ExRun is heading to a distributor in Canada, not sure what happened there but who knows.
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Old 01-14-2010, 04:18 PM   #120
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Hello, Could some one please tell me what the height of the XE60A is W/O fan? The track I run at is now allowing timing advance esc's in the 1/12th and TC class (17.5 motors) Most of the guys are ordering the Black Diamond esc's but I don't want to spend that much when it seems to me that the XE60A will do the same thing and has that nifty little program card. I just need to make sure that it will fit under my 1/12th Audi R8C body.
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