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Old 07-19-2009, 01:05 AM   #1
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Mario here,

I have a TC5R and would like a bit of assist in setup.
Car was driving ok yesterday but didn't really have enough steering.

Mark helped me tweak with it a tad but now its become a drift car.
What should I do to get rid of the rear slide?

When I punch the throttle out of a sweeping it tends to pull out of the drift, but entering the corner fast made the drift happen in the first place.

On the infield the car wants to drift and or spin out.

I'm pretty sure springs/damping is close for this, so im thinking its maybe just a fine tune with ride height or droop.

Any suggestions? tnx
Btw, asphalt, rubber, jaco blues, Novak GTB, novak 13.5.

tnx
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Old 07-19-2009, 01:28 AM   #2
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I've never had much luck with jaco's. I have tried greens and blues and I just can't get them to hook up as well as sorex's.

But assuming your tires are good, a few things to try to get more rear bite are:

Softer springs-I run greens on the back of my tc5
Lay the shocks down
More rear toe-I run 2 degrees, but my track has pretty good bite.
Take the sway bars off

What chassis are you running? You got a setup sheet of your setup?

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Mario here,

I have a TC5R and would like a bit of assist in setup.
Car was driving ok yesterday but didn't really have enough steering.

Mark helped me tweak with it a tad but now its become a drift car.
What should I do to get rid of the rear slide?

When I punch the throttle out of a sweeping it tends to pull out of the drift, but entering the corner fast made the drift happen in the first place.

On the infield the car wants to drift and or spin out.

I'm pretty sure springs/damping is close for this, so im thinking its maybe just a fine tune with ride height or droop.

Any suggestions? tnx
Btw, asphalt, rubber, jaco blues, Novak GTB, novak 13.5.

tnx
We couldn't really help you without knowing all the details of the car's current setup.

1. Tires
2. Ride Heights
3. Downstop settings
4. Springs
5. oil wieght
6. cambers
7. toes
8. caster
9. equal shock lengths?

What if, for example, you were running -5 degrees of front toe in, and +10 degrees of rear toe out? Nothing we could suggest would counter those settings. So give us all of these, and we can start from there.
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Old 07-30-2009, 07:22 PM   #4
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I finally made a setup sheet. The car is running pretty good now. It still gets a bit loose in the rear about halfway through 5-6 minute runs even with new tires.

PDF attached (hopefully).

TriX

Oh, I'm not quite sure what shock oil is in the car now but I just received my shock oil so I will be trying 50/40 F/R this weekend unless someone has better solutions.

tnx

Apparently my PDF is 950kb when forum limit is 450kb.. So I will list some specs:

Format: Front/Rear

Jaco Blues
Springs: Red/Green
Toe-in: 0 degrees/2 degrees
Spring Mts: 3B/1B
Caster: 4degree/0 degree
Hex Spacing: 0.8/0.8
WheelBase: 2.2/2.2
Steering link: 2B/na
Bumpsteer: 1/na
Shock Position: 2B/1B
Camber link position: 1/2
Outer ball & shims: 0/1.8A
FWD Arm mt: B/B
Fwd Mt shim: 1/0.6
RWD arm mt: B/B
RWD mnt shim: 1/2
Droop: 1.5/2
Anti-roll bar: 1.2/1.5
Shock oil: looks like 40w or 50w in both.
shock piston: 2/2
no rebound
Differential type: Diff/Diff
Diff setting: Tight/light-med (just received my spool today).
Geared for 150F temp after 5min run. (102F day)

ok thanks, gotta run to University class now.

Mario
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