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Old 07-27-2009, 10:22 PM   #31
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I have run the Tekin Redline 17.5 for a while, and just recently moved to the Trinity Duo... and the Trinity Duo motor (not the pulse... thats garbage) is noticably faster than the redline, and runs a bit cooler.
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So any recent thoughts on the motors out there? I am curious about the hacker 17.5 as well as the new Novak 17.5 Ballistic.
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anyone, looking right now at the hacker 17.5 and the Epic Duo 2?
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I'm running an older Novak SS 17.5 that I paid $20 for with a 2-year old Novak GTB. It's the car to beat here, but our track is a bit smaller than average. I'm sure that on a larger track my friend's Tekin-powered TC5 would gain some ground on it, but then again I haven't even messed with timing and my gearing is somewhat conservative. Always comes off lukewarm at best.

Wow, this post really didn't help at all, did it

Now that I think about it, I used the Novaks at a larger track up north and it didn't have any problems keeping up with the others.

Basically what I'm saying is, for the price you can't beat a gently used Novak.
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im new to brushless and recently purchased the novak gtb with the 17.5ss motor. i have it on a stock hpi pro2 and it seems really slow. much slower than the brushed setup. does anyone know the proper spur/ pinion combination i should start with on this car? im currently running a 122t spur and 35t pinion. the cars final drive ratio is 2.1. i checked the gearing recommendations on the novak site and it says 3.5 fdr for touring cars w/ 17.5 motors. i think the current gearing comes out to a ratio of 7.33. very confused as to where i go from here.
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Old 08-30-2009, 12:21 AM   #36
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You most likely have to drop your FDR down to the mid to low 4's to start.
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You most likely have to drop your FDR down to the mid to low 4's to start.
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I'm running an older Novak SS 17.5 that I paid $20 for with a 2-year old Novak GTB. It's the car to beat here, but our track is a bit smaller than average. I'm sure that on a larger track my friend's Tekin-powered TC5 would gain some ground on it, but then again I haven't even messed with timing and my gearing is somewhat conservative. Always comes off lukewarm at best.

Wow, this post really didn't help at all, did it

Now that I think about it, I used the Novaks at a larger track up north and it didn't have any problems keeping up with the others.

Basically what I'm saying is, for the price you can't beat a gently used Novak.

We feature a lot of "gently used Novak" in our Factory Remanufactured (w/new 120 day warranty) store:

Novak Factory Remanufactured Products

This Remanufactured category is (by far) the busiest section of our store.......

Lots of bargain-hunters, these days.
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No comment for Losi??
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No comment for Losi??
Losi are essentially a re badged Hacker motor or vice versa. They need a fair bit of gearing to work(try -0.5 on your FDR IE: 3.8 instead of 4.3) and then you can play with the timing to get it to come alive a bit more. I am using one with an SPX and fear bumping up the motor timing in case i blow it up with too much timing as the speedy kicks in on profile 7 or 8. It will run all day at around 160f but this is only in mild weather and i have not used it much in our hot weather.
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Any thoughts on the Fantom Ion 2's?
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im new to brushless and recently purchased the novak gtb with the 17.5ss motor. i have it on a stock hpi pro2 and it seems really slow. much slower than the brushed setup. does anyone know the proper spur/ pinion combination i should start with on this car? im currently running a 122t spur and 35t pinion. the cars final drive ratio is 2.1. i checked the gearing recommendations on the novak site and it says 3.5 fdr for touring cars w/ 17.5 motors. i think the current gearing comes out to a ratio of 7.33. very confused as to where i go from here.
you need to go to a larger pinion and smaller spur.
not sure what the limitations would be on that chassis motor mount but check if a 102t spur and a 48t pinion which would give you around 45mm roll out on rubbers (4.46 gear ratio)
You can gear up from there if needing a bit more speed.
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We feature a lot of "gently used Novak" in our Factory Remanufactured (w/new 120 day warranty) store:

Novak Factory Remanufactured Products

This Remanufactured category is (by far) the busiest section of our store.......

Lots of bargain-hunters, these days.
It's the way to go when someone is starting off with brushless. Don't forget about the trade-in program too.
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It's the way to go when someone is starting off with brushless. Don't forget about the trade-in program too.
Now that you've mentioned Novak's replacement/exchange program for motors and controllers.

Also popular with bargain seekers..:

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you need to go to a larger pinion and smaller spur.
not sure what the limitations would be on that chassis motor mount but check if a 102t spur and a 48t pinion which would give you around 45mm roll out on rubbers (4.46 gear ratio)
You can gear up from there if needing a bit more speed.
thanks guys for the info. picked up a 47t pinion at the LHS and switched to a 100t spur. great improvement in speed and acceleration. gonna try to pick up a few more pinions and spurs and try those out (hopefully before this wekends race). looks like the stock HPI mount can accomodate larger pinions, up to 54t or so, but i wont be sure till i try em on.
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