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Old 06-19-2009, 07:16 AM   #16
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We don't have any Foam Sedan running at our track, but we do have World GT 13.5 1-cell and Rubber Tire Sedan 13.5, and the WGT cars are still faster than Rubber Tire.

Even with less power from the WGT cars, the Rubber Tire 13.5 cars are still on average about .3 to .5 seconds slower per lap compared to 1-cell WGT 13.5.
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Old 06-19-2009, 07:19 AM   #17
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really depends on where you're racing, as grip levels will dictate how quickly your foams wear down.

I use 40 shore foams, with additive on for the first round only, then the track is fine

Very little cost for me, and the tyres dont feel gone off after a few runs, unlike rubber.

Just "imho", for the local track "I" race at...
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Old 06-19-2009, 07:33 AM   #18
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Disagree on both points.
Ok not everybody but a lot more than here.

The price of foam is here a lot cheaper.
After 6 runs of 6 mints my rubber Vtec30 tires are gone.
Wile the foam tires are still there and are cheaper to buy.

i used 1 set of foam all winter and they were still ok.
The rubber tire i get every race new ones. Also on carpet.
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Old 06-19-2009, 08:03 AM   #19
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What?

i can run a a set of foams for 2 weeks max, considering the are only good at 59mm or less. ive run a set of rubbers for 2 months straight with no drop in lap times, also on ozite.
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OK, so a year ago pretty much every one at our track was running foam tire sedan. Yeah it was fast, but also a lot more work. As people have moved forward rubber tire dominates our track. Last night we had 18 rubber tire entries and 4 WGT cars. No foam sedan at all.

We have spec'ed on Jaco Blues and I can tell you that the tires last for a long time with very little drop off. Lap times stay pretty consistent until they rip.

I think for the most part it is personal preference. If you like foam style racing then foam is for you, but the driving style is very different then rubber tire racing. Foam is very point and shoot and Rubber requires a more flowing approach to driving. My personal opinion is that rubber tire takes more chassis setup and cleaner lines to be fast.

Both can be fun, but for me rubber tire will win on every front.

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i can run a a set of foams for 2 weeks max, considering the are only good at 59mm or less. ive run a set of rubbers for 2 months straight with no drop in lap times, also on ozite.
come and drive on our asphalt. It has a lot of grip but also wears your tires very fast.
I don't make the foam tires smaller. was for training.
Al TC races here are with rubber.

2 weeks max is a lot longer than my 6 runs on rubber.
it also depends on witch rubber you are using.
VTEC30 tires are the worst tires i have ever got.
Also is the price for what you get to high.
The Sorex are a lot better.

Still loving rubber more than foam.
Foam is just like a slot racer.
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No rubber is for people that can't drive "full noodle" for 6 minutes
LOL.. we drive full noodle but have to put up with the tyres possibly getting too hot and going off towards the end of a race.. (you know, like real touring cars do)

Foams should stay on 1/12th and pan cars
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come and drive on our asphalt. It has a lot of grip but also wears your tires very fast.
I don't make the foam tires smaller. was for training.
Al TC races here are with rubber.

2 weeks max is a lot longer than my 6 runs on rubber.
it also depends on witch rubber you are using.
VTEC30 tires are the worst tires i have ever got.
Also is the price for what you get to high.
The Sorex are a lot better.

Still loving rubber more than foam.
Foam is just like a slot racer.
Sorex tyres are still the best around bar non
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I would say America's obsession with foam sedan is about over.
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I would say America's obsession with foam sedan is about over.
That is pretty compelling data.

Foam is for Pan Cars and 1/8 scale Nitro, as stated in an ealier post.
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Foam to me is alot better to run, I have ran both for years. I love being able to feel minor adjustments to the car, one little tweak of a camber link and you feel it. In rubber the cars just feel sluggish and you can adjust yourself over the tire threshold. New rubber tires are faster than 3 week old ones, most of the time. I know there are some tracks this is not true, but when a event race limits the number of tires you can have there is a reason for it. New is generally faster. I can buy 2 sets of foam for the price of 1 set of rubber.
This last carpet national I had a very bad experiance with the tires they chose, I went thru practice and the first round of quals chasing the car, it would push turning one way the hook the other, car felt extremely tweaked. No one could find the problem, Paul, and Robbie were stumped too. Until I broke the wheel on that set and switched to a new set, then the car was good, ran lap times as fast as the top 5, until a blow out ended that round of quals. Then I was down to my last set which were worse than the first, so $100 later I was screwed. Even when the car was good it just felt like I was trying to control a drift around every corner and couldn't be as aggressive as I wanted to be, but that just may be my driving style.
At my track we had a mix of both, until me and Drew convinced the rubber guys to try foam, after that they were hooked and our rubber tire class dissolved. I've seen this debate many times over the years.
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[QUOTE=syndr0me;5957877]http://intchamps.com/registration/entries.phpAaron here is the link
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