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Old 07-30-2009, 08:43 PM   #286
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On second inspection, yeah, it's a fake sold as a genuine 416WE.

beware boys and girls.
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Old 07-30-2009, 09:19 PM   #287
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Think a mate just got stung on ebay, he won a 416 that upon inspection we're fairly sure is a knock off.

Just looks/feels not quite up to scratch, also the blue is a deeper shade than "tamiya blue"

Anyone got a sure fire way to confirm it's dodgy?

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Old 07-30-2009, 10:47 PM   #288
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That's gonna help someone looking at an e-bay ad...
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Old 07-30-2009, 11:07 PM   #289
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Should be ok for a refund, if not paypal might wade in.
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Old 07-31-2009, 12:02 AM   #290
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I guess fakes will not have pictures of the unassembled kit and the unopened box but generic pictures. I know these pictures can be downloaded everywhere, so beware of listings with such a generic picture. A genuine picture taken in someone's home will have the little backgound details (a table the box is set on, lighting, etc) that give it away as the real thing, not some image downloaded off the web. If I saw the original unopened box in such a home-made picture I would take it as being pretty much the real thing (as real as it can be on ebay, anyway).
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Old 07-31-2009, 02:46 AM   #291
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Any Chance of getting a link to that auction and how much he paid for it ?
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Old 07-31-2009, 07:01 AM   #292
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This is good news

we should support this company

$180 is a bargain.


the price for a brand original 416 is way overpriced


hopefully more cars will be copy, lets bring down the cost of rc !
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Old 07-31-2009, 01:22 PM   #293
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chassis thickness is different.
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Old 07-31-2009, 07:31 PM   #294
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Any Chance of getting a link to that auction and how much he paid for it ?
Not yet, he'sa still chasing getting his cash back, but it was near AU$400
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Old 07-31-2009, 08:39 PM   #295
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Not yet, he'sa still chasing getting his cash back, but it was near AU$400
Thats just a tad over USD 300 - I think that sounds like too good a deal on a Tamiya 416WE (unless he advertised it as used )
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Yeah, but not such a good deal on a chinese knock off.
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Old 08-01-2009, 01:53 PM   #297
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Yeah, but not such a good deal on a chinese knock off.
As they say.... if it sounds too good to be true , it normally is

USd 500 posted seems to be the cheepest I have seen for a Tamiya 416WE.
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Old 08-17-2009, 01:57 AM   #298
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New 416 full option!! WOW
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Old 08-19-2009, 12:05 PM   #300
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Hi guys.

This is my first post on here, but have been keeping an eye on this 416 copy or clone etc etc. I ordered one from RCMarket and it arrived in 4 working days from Hong Kong, which is pretty quick (as usual for RCMarket!)

On first inspection, the Chinaman put the c hubs on the wrong way round, so the tops of the hubs were pointing towards the bumper. I also looked at a few other issues, like the shocks and they felt a bit wrong in feel. I thought looking at this thing so far, i'd better undo the whole thing and put it back together.

I thread locked in all the bottom screws. Shimmed everything in the steering rack so the least amount of play was left. The diffs problem which was already pointed out on here, was the long screw which actually only works how the Chinaman did it -the wrong way round, so the thrust bearing is in on the other side. The only downside in this, is that the diff cannot be adjusted quickly. I actually undone it and replaced the balls with tungsten ones and sanded the plates flat on both sides. I greased it all and also even greased the crappy thrustbearing and plates that came with it with Tamiya Antiwear grease. (Which is my favourite grease in RC because its incredible on my 1/8scale on road driveshafts, incredible lack of wear when applied right.)

The shocks I checked and the bodies look remarkably good quality. I thrown out the red o rings and put in clear ones. I then changed the oil caps with old TRF ones that I already had. I also had old tamiya shock rods that I feel are better than the gold ones that come with it and I had them already too! Next, I filled them all with 50wt oil and they actually rebound well and dont squeak at all. They are very very smooth if done right and actually feel like TRF shocks with proper rods/o rings/oil seals.

When I finished the car, I spent nothing extra on it, as I had the parts already. The car looks amazing. I have a feeling the anti roll bar cups are too loose, so they will probably pop out. Also the cups on everything else are possibly too likely to pop out on impacts. Apart from those things, the car should handle brilliantly as everything is made well enough.

So things I did -

Replaced all o rings and oil seals for dampers.
Replaced shock rods with standard tamiya ones.
Used tons of anti wear grease on the thrust bearing and plates, but I would replace the thrust bearing with the original and get the correct screw.
smimmed the steering rack to try and remove play.
Anti wear greased the cvds fully.

Hopefully the car lasts a full race meeting on Thursday and will let you know how it went. The handling should be great but my only concern is the diff and if the car is fragile. All in all the car is easily worth the money, even with the changes that need to be made. Even if the car breaks the c hubs/blocks easily, they can be replaced over time for those on a budget with aluminium ones.
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