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centax error! 12-09-2003 06:54 PM

Integy VESC 3300 GP batts
 
I'm planning to get those integy VESC batts for stock- are they any good? those cells are pricey also:(

It says 1.2 volts on the label @ 20 A dis . Anybody can share information about the Integy cell is much appreciated.

Thanks.

CE!

http://www.sslorder.com/Shop/Images/...ageGP33004.jpg

Fire 12-09-2003 08:44 PM

i would try some other brands such as fukuyama or pro match:)

Racer4Life 12-09-2003 08:50 PM

Integy labels there cells different than most companies. Not sure about the specifics, but I know they do it different.

As the post before me said, Try Fukuyama cells. Check out there thread in this section!

Tom

JPHRacer 12-09-2003 09:35 PM

Integy has their maching machines stop taking voltiage readings at 240sec so the voltiage numbers look great on even the shittest of cells. They have been doing it for a long time. Take a look at KC Racing, he has great stuff and is a real nice guy. Murdock RC, and Big Dog RC both are online stores that sell his stuff.

fatdoggy 12-09-2003 09:56 PM

There are a few reasons,

1) the use the lavco matching system.
2) 5 amp charge rate
3) 20 amp discharge rate.

6amp charge and 30amp discharge are the standard now for most matchers, a lesser charge and discharge rate = better specs on cells that arn't that great. Integy has some great products, batteries isn't one of them...

Check out some of the companies that advertise on Rctech, for as low as $30 a pack you can get good quality matched packs, if you would rather stick with name brands then buy some SMC cells.

Speedie 12-09-2003 11:26 PM

I own an integy pack here are the numbers:
643 sec ave:1.22
I figured as it was one of the better packs they sell it would be pretty good. Well it has a nice label. I cant tell the difference between that pack and the generic 3000 packs i bought for 12 bucks. I am very disapointed. I recently ordered some fukuyama racing cells as I have heard nothing but rave things about them. All people talked about at cleveland is how much more rip Mo Denton had racing handout motors with his fukuyama batts. Ill let ya know by this weekend if they are all they say they are.

centax error! 12-09-2003 11:37 PM


Originally posted by Fire
i would try some other brands such as fukuyama or pro match:)
I did order Fukuyama but they are out of stock now for the 1.175-1.179. I was curious on the Integy when i saw the higher voltage on the readings.

Pro Match is also out of stock for the 1.175+.

I really need the batts next week so I was asking anybodies opinion before I made a wrong purchase.

Thanks.

CE!

Speedie 12-09-2003 11:39 PM

from what I have heard on here that the new batches of batteries arent producing the high numbers that they were before so ya might be waiting a while to see high numbers again.

centax error! 12-09-2003 11:39 PM


Originally posted by JPHRacer
Integy has their maching machines stop taking voltiage readings at 240sec so the voltiage numbers look great on even the shittest of cells. They have been doing it for a long time. Take a look at KC Racing, he has great stuff and is a real nice guy. Murdock RC, and Big Dog RC both are online stores that sell his stuff.
JPH racer - So youre saying the voltage could be higher:confused: How about punch?

I will check KC racing. Thanks.

CE!

JPHRacer 12-10-2003 12:03 AM

The numbers that you are seeing for voltiage are only for the first 240 sec of the discharge curve, not the toatal 600+ sec. Punch is a matter of the Internal resistance, and generaly crappy cells have a high internal resistance, those cells probably have a high Ir and dont have much in the way of punch.

If your looking to buy cells right now, it's going to be hard to find good voltiage cells. Gp has changed the cells that the matchers are getting and they will now not produce the 1.18+ voltiage that they were before. But, the internal resistance is down quite a bit and the runtime is Up 15+ sec. If your racing Mod or a 19 turn spec class then the new cells would be a good choice. But if your racing stock, then I would try to get ahold of some of the older cells. I do know for a fact that Kenny (KC) is still matching the older high voltiage cells. So everything of his that you will find will be the high voltiage stuff. If you are running mod then I would get some of the new cells.

centax error! 12-10-2003 12:06 AM

I decided to get the SMC but which one should I get- i am running on 23T:)


GP3306S Excellent Runtime & Voltage
GP3306P Very Good runtime & Voltage

If I will be running stock should I be shooting for the higher Volts? My first choice was to get the Fukuyama 1.175+ but they are out of stock now and I need to made the purchase this week.

Should I get the Fukuyama 1.170+ or do I need to wait until their on stock of the 1.175?


btw, the KC racing site is still under construction:)

Thanks.

CE!

Joel Lagace 12-10-2003 04:17 AM

GP3306S Excellent Runtime & Voltage
GP3306P Very Good runtime & Voltage

Either will be fine but the lower priced "P" packs are great for stock and 19T racing, typically i have seen them with higher average voltage over the "S" packs with slightly less run time. But in stock racing no one needs 400+seconds @30amps anyway! :)

You wont be disappointed with SMC matching.

centax error! 12-10-2003 05:27 AM

joel- thans:)

Speedie 12-10-2003 05:49 AM

I would call, maybe the site isnt up to date or you could talk them into giving ya some secret stash.

Racer4Life 12-10-2003 02:33 PM

Contact Dan at Fukuyama directly. His site said they were out, when infact he sent me some great 1.18 cells!

[email protected]

Tom

centax error! 12-10-2003 09:21 PM


Originally posted by Racer4Life
Contact Dan at Fukuyama directly. His site said they were out, when infact he sent me some great 1.18 cells!

[email protected]

Tom

Tom,

I just PM'ed Maj Teeth and he told me that he they will have stock next week.

Thanks.

CE!

Sleighty 12-11-2003 05:21 AM

just to give you an idea of how good Fukuyama cells are, ive just bought two packs of the 1.165-1.169 packs. I ran in stock last weekend and I ran my Team Orion cells and from 6th in the first final I caught the leader with 4 laps left, in race 2 i ran my new cells and the punch was amazing! i caught and passed the leader after 4 laps!!!! these cells are amazing, GET SOME!

Sleighty:sneaky:

Hi-LowBrow 12-11-2003 12:25 PM

I bought some INTEGY CELLS last month and bought some FUKUYAMA CELLS also, in my opinion, I didn't see any difference between INTEGY and FUKUYAMA, or INTEGY's(1.22 at 20amp) are little bit better than FUKUYAMA CELLS(1.174 at 30amp).
How about SMC? that's the best brand I've ever tried !!!

Mo Denton 12-11-2003 12:50 PM

Wow this thread is even confusing me
how do you rate SMC packs, pretty damn good, I ran for them last year and did pretty well.
Other manufactures Kinetix,Hurricane,Promatch,Integy
all obviously have their stuff together or they wouldnt be mentioned so much.
it just so happened that a week before cleveland I had 10 batteries in my box from six different companies and the best one in my box on the GFX and the track lap times was a 1.172 Fukuyama. I made the call and ordered some for cleveland.
I run for Fukuyama now so naturally I would tell you what to buy.
but consider this I never made the A main in cleveland before this year TQing 3 rounds in a row.Rob Love never made the A main in clevland before this year and he puts it in as well. Whatever choice you make you will not be disapointed with Fukuyama cells.
I havent yet met someone who is.
Mo Denton

stefan 12-11-2003 01:20 PM

I talked to my battery sponsor the other day and he told me that the GP 3300's have gotten so good that they don't get the big differences between cells anymore as they have in the past.

this means, that even a unmatched pack is very decent.

I also bought two packs from Integy when my matcher was out of them and they are great, just as good as anybody else's.

Speedie 12-16-2003 12:21 AM

I got my Fukuyama cells and compared them to my Integy Packs. Here are the numbers for just one cycle. I used a reedy Quasar Pro with a 20 amp discharge.

Integy
643 sec 1.22v no IR #

test: 583 sec. /ave V 7.0 /3200mv drawn

Fukuyama
423 sec 1.167 IR 15

test: 654 sec. /ave V 7.06 /3576mv draw

I havent tested them on the track yet but Im expecting the numbers to show up there too.

stefan 12-16-2003 06:28 AM

I don't know what you bought, but my Integy's show 460 sec @ 25 amps with 7.08 v.

This is on a T35.

These cells ripp on the track.

STLNLST 12-16-2003 06:57 AM

my integy cells have been keeping up or beating the top of the line cells in my area. There are reedy, smc, and trinity driver's in my area. The GP cells are (IMO) better than what we were use to seeing in the 3000 and older era so just about every battery company is going to have decent cells.


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