Tamiya F104 Pro!
#7036
Tech Champion
iTrader: (34)
hey guys, i have an f104x1, love car but am having a problem. when i try to get on throttle coming out of a turn, the car diffs out..... i've tried tightening the diff to various different degrees, including all the way locked down, where the car just loops out on throttle. the car seems to be staying flat in the corners, and does not lift the tire. but it seems that just the slightest bit of traction loss to one side causes the diff to spin.
any thoughts or ideas?
any thoughts or ideas?
This made a big difference at the iic race.
#7037
Tech Champion
iTrader: (22)
hey guys, i have an f104x1, love car but am having a problem. when i try to get on throttle coming out of a turn, the car diffs out..... i've tried tightening the diff to various different degrees, including all the way locked down, where the car just loops out on throttle. the car seems to be staying flat in the corners, and does not lift the tire. but it seems that just the slightest bit of traction loss to one side causes the diff to spin.
any thoughts or ideas?
any thoughts or ideas?
#7039
Tech Regular
iTrader: (19)
All will be ready to race out of the ox to some extent.
F104 F60:
Complete chassis, you should be set with it. You may want to get upgrade parts like oil shock, turnbuckles, alloy diff housing and alloy motor mount.
F104 Pro:
Complete Chassis. Probably the best value for money. Only upgrade part you will need is alloy motor mount, other than that its good to go straight out the box.
F104W:
Complete Chassis. Same as F60, you'll need the mentioned parts to get it reliable.
F104X1:
Not a complete chassis, you'll need to buy wing set seperately, and i believe a body too (may be wrong about the body). Good racing car though comes with all the hop ups you'll need.
Apparently for carpet foam racing the f104W is the go, tarmac foam the f104 Pro and tarmac rubber the f104x1 seems the goods.
Hope that helps ya. Ohh if you're keen get the 104Pro and then get the conversion to give it the side dampner like the X1.
F104 F60:
Complete chassis, you should be set with it. You may want to get upgrade parts like oil shock, turnbuckles, alloy diff housing and alloy motor mount.
F104 Pro:
Complete Chassis. Probably the best value for money. Only upgrade part you will need is alloy motor mount, other than that its good to go straight out the box.
F104W:
Complete Chassis. Same as F60, you'll need the mentioned parts to get it reliable.
F104X1:
Not a complete chassis, you'll need to buy wing set seperately, and i believe a body too (may be wrong about the body). Good racing car though comes with all the hop ups you'll need.
Apparently for carpet foam racing the f104W is the go, tarmac foam the f104 Pro and tarmac rubber the f104x1 seems the goods.
Hope that helps ya. Ohh if you're keen get the 104Pro and then get the conversion to give it the side dampner like the X1.
#7040
Tech Champion
iTrader: (34)
The Pro kits are all good stuff including carbon fiber chassis (although the FRP/fiberglass has been favored for asphalt low bite conditions), oil damper, aluminum parts, bearings etc. but no body or wheels.
The X1 is the best of all of it and also has the new side damper and hub/balancer as well as all the other good stuff.
I'd say snatch up an X1 if you can, as they became instantly discontinued but all parts are available only in blue anodized form and can be used to convert a Pro or even a basic F104 for a fair price. Just know you'll need to get a body and of course wheels and tires. Pit Shimizu 571 and 572 are unmatched for tire performance.
The F104 Ws are 200mm wide and may not be included in some clubs "Realistic" specifications due to them being wider than the recently more accepted 180mm Modern specs.
#7045
I'm having the same issue. I put 10K oil on the side dampner and figure maybe I should clean that off and go with none for right now...maybe try some 5k if I need more. As for the droop, I'm only seeing adjusting preload as a way of adding droop. Is this what you are talking about or am I just missing something?
#7046
Tech Champion
iTrader: (34)
I'm having the same issue. I put 10K oil on the side dampner and figure maybe I should clean that off and go with none for right now...maybe try some 5k if I need more. As for the droop, I'm only seeing adjusting preload as a way of adding droop. Is this what you are talking about or am I just missing something?
The X1 suggests putting an o ring under the piston to limit the overall length so unscrewing the shock end will allow you to get some of that length back.
Try going to 2000w on the damper, even wipe it off a bit after working it a little, just barely noticeable is how I run my side damper.
I also run soft spring with very little preload on the center shock.
#7047
Tech Elite
Pod droop is adjusted by lenthening or shortening the center shock. You can get more droop by backing out the shock ballcup or removing a spacer/o-ring inside the shock if you have one. Reduce droop by doing the opposite. The easiest to do is backing out/screwing in the ballcup.
#7048
Tech Elite
Mr. Hammon beats me to it again. Ahaha.
#7049
Tech Champion
iTrader: (34)
Pod droop is adjusted by lenthening or shortening the center shock. You can get more droop by backing out the shock ballcup or removing a spacer/o-ring inside the shock if you have one. Reduce droop by doing the opposite. The easiest to do is backing out/screwing in the ballcup.
#7050
Tech Elite
Yep you are correct. I notice I left out the center screw after but since you already mentioned it......it's not like people read my posts anyway.