12LikesTamiya F104 Pro!
10-13-2011, 03:02 PM
#6586
Attachment 820033
Someone knows which brand makes this thing?
TRG?
Seems a good option for foam tires i think.
Someone knows which brand makes this thing?
TRG?
Seems a good option for foam tires i think.
10-13-2011, 03:53 PM
#6587
Tech Regular
Nope! Is not TRG111 (not the complete TRG111 kit, very similar) is a new conversion kit specific for f104X1, and is called "FS104WW"
10-13-2011, 07:20 PM
#6588
10-13-2011, 07:29 PM
#6589
ok thanks guys im gonna try both that were suggested
10-13-2011, 07:39 PM
#6590
The IIC at Vegas had control tires Ride Medium front and rear. I tried the Ride Super Soft (great if your track temperature is cold because they overheat easily) front and rear and still prefer Shimizu F1-S and R1-H.
Ride feels more like Tamiya tires, and to me, it feels somewhat floaty. But when your car begins to spin or understeer, it is more progressive. Shimizu on the other hand, feels more planted, but the understeer and oversteer-spin is more abrupt.
You need to mount Pit Shimizu tires on Tamiya foam rims and drill at least one 3mm hole for vent. Ride tires you have to buy Ride rims to fit.
Ride feels more like Tamiya tires, and to me, it feels somewhat floaty. But when your car begins to spin or understeer, it is more progressive. Shimizu on the other hand, feels more planted, but the understeer and oversteer-spin is more abrupt.
You need to mount Pit Shimizu tires on Tamiya foam rims and drill at least one 3mm hole for vent. Ride tires you have to buy Ride rims to fit.
honestly not sure where that falls in to the Ride category of tires, but they worked well there, with no wear at all.
10-13-2011, 08:44 PM
#6591
Tamiya's (Kit front, Option soft rear) require a softer rear end to get working.
For Shimitzu, I've only used the PS-0573 (F1-M) and PS-0575 (R1-S) compounds, haven't tired the PS-0572 (R1-H) yet. With that combination, and a car setup for the Tamiya's, they were around 0.3s/lap slower, and had mega understeer.... Also the rear tyres tend to tear on the sidewall on high speed tracks. Most likely it's due to the thin insert used.
Certainly don't think there would be much in it, either changing the rear tyre to a R1-H, or altering the setup.
At the moment my preference is for the Tam's... but I will do some more work on the setup of the shimitzu's soon.
Ed
10-13-2011, 09:44 PM
#6592
I've used both Tamiya and Shimizu tires and in my experience;
Tamiya's (Kit front, Option soft rear) require a softer rear end to get working.
For Shimitzu, I've only used the PS-0573 (F1-M) and PS-0575 (R1-S) compounds, haven't tired the PS-0572 (R1-H) yet. With that combination, and a car setup for the Tamiya's, they were around 0.3s/lap slower, and had mega understeer.... Also the rear tyres tend to tear on the sidewall on high speed tracks. Most likely it's due to the thin insert used.
Certainly don't think there would be much in it, either changing the rear tyre to a R1-H, or altering the setup.
At the moment my preference is for the Tam's... but I will do some more work on the setup of the shimitzu's soon.
Ed
Tamiya's (Kit front, Option soft rear) require a softer rear end to get working.
For Shimitzu, I've only used the PS-0573 (F1-M) and PS-0575 (R1-S) compounds, haven't tired the PS-0572 (R1-H) yet. With that combination, and a car setup for the Tamiya's, they were around 0.3s/lap slower, and had mega understeer.... Also the rear tyres tend to tear on the sidewall on high speed tracks. Most likely it's due to the thin insert used.
Certainly don't think there would be much in it, either changing the rear tyre to a R1-H, or altering the setup.
At the moment my preference is for the Tam's... but I will do some more work on the setup of the shimitzu's soon.
Ed
Then I got a sample set of R1-H. At first I was skeptical that a Hard would make the car undrivable. But putting it to test I found that the R1-H gives a tad little less grip but a lot more consistent grip overall. It does not fade and it gives the car more steering without breaking the rear end at the same time. In the end, everyone settled on F1-S and R1-H for the best balance. Still lean a bit towards understeer but it's pretty close to neutral. With chassis tuning you can have the right balance you want.
I am not sure why Pit Shimizu calls the new R1 Hard, to me, it is more of a R1 Soft but with thicker material. Just give it a try and you'll be surprised.
I plan to test the F3 R3 series later and update the test results.
10-13-2011, 10:09 PM
#6593
10-13-2011, 11:08 PM
#6595
Attachment 820033
Someone knows which brand makes this thing?
TRG?
Seems a good option for foam tires i think.
Someone knows which brand makes this thing?
TRG?
Seems a good option for foam tires i think.
10-13-2011, 11:15 PM
#6596
Side damper parts in blue = dialed, not to mention the long top deck...
The 0573 F1-M and 0572 R1-H combo was great on asphalt. I tried it because a ton of the California guys recommended it here and it works. Wear seems pretty good too.
On carpet I tried those tires, but they were not as good as 0574 F3-S and 0575 R1-S. That worked quite a bit better for me.
Some tracks like Tamiya tires i guess, but I have had better luck with Pit so far..
The 0573 F1-M and 0572 R1-H combo was great on asphalt. I tried it because a ton of the California guys recommended it here and it works. Wear seems pretty good too.
On carpet I tried those tires, but they were not as good as 0574 F3-S and 0575 R1-S. That worked quite a bit better for me.
Some tracks like Tamiya tires i guess, but I have had better luck with Pit so far..
10-14-2011, 12:16 AM
#6598
Any combo with pit shimizu tire make the car push. Simply no steering at all. We can also that it's SUPER stable.
10-14-2011, 01:11 AM
#6599
tryhard
I've tried the shimizu's soft rear, but use the tamiya foam insert instead of the thin insert that comes with the tyres.
I find the wear is really good and grip is fantastic for my track.
The cost of the shimizu's is what makes it hard in comparison to the Tamiya's, but the grip they give is a big leap forward for me at my track.
Just a thought
I've tried the shimizu's soft rear, but use the tamiya foam insert instead of the thin insert that comes with the tyres.
I find the wear is really good and grip is fantastic for my track.
The cost of the shimizu's is what makes it hard in comparison to the Tamiya's, but the grip they give is a big leap forward for me at my track.
Just a thought
10-14-2011, 03:00 AM
#6600
Tech Regular
