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Old 04-26-2011, 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted by theatriks View Post
haha ok thanks ya it seems its one of the tougher cars to dial in
My car worked decent with no inserts in the rear with the soft compound tires
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Old 04-26-2011, 11:42 AM
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Originally Posted by BP SHADOW View Post
My car worked decent with no inserts in the rear with the soft compound tires
thanks i will try that too
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:08 PM
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what colour is the softest damper spring and what oil should i put in the shock
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Old 04-26-2011, 12:27 PM
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Originally Posted by theatriks View Post
what colour is the softest damper spring and what oil should i put in the shock
Red
3 hole piston
15 or 20 wt oil
3 or 4mm of internal spacers

You need to figure out how to get the rear ride height down more
the F103GT rear spacers work well
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Originally Posted by BP SHADOW View Post
Red
3 hole piston
15 or 20 wt oil
3 or 4mm of internal spacers

You need to figure out how to get the rear ride height down more
the F103GT rear spacers work well
ok thanks but the piston that came with the kit is fine rite ....and the tamiya oil is not that wt?
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Old 04-26-2011, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by theatriks View Post
ok thanks but the piston that came with the kit is fine rite ....and the tamiya oil is not that wt?
if its 3 hole then its right
Not sure what weight the kit oil is
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Thanks BP ya i remeber when i put it together it was 3 hole i think and just wondering why the kit oil is never good enough doesnt tamiya do loads of testing
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Originally Posted by F N CUDA View Post
Pain in the ass cuz there is only so much you can do for the rear end of this thing.
After you have done it all, split upper deck, soft feel on everything, spring, shock oil, damper plate, T bar, o ring etc... then move on to the front end.

Stiff front springs, medium to hard tires, toe out, ride height higher than the rear.
Make it push some how when exiting the corners.
Oh yeh, good luck with that.
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This is about the same setup i used to use on the F103 back in the days you could only use the Tamiya foam tires
Nowadays with the 30 or 25SH rear tires and 40 or 45SH fronts it is a lot easier to get that car dailed in.

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Originally Posted by F N CUDA View Post
Pain in the ass cuz there is only so much you can do for the rear end of this thing.
After you have done it all, split upper deck, soft feel on everything, spring, shock oil, damper plate, T bar, o ring etc... then move on to the front end.

Stiff front springs, medium to hard tires, toe out, ride height higher than the rear.
Make it push some how when exiting the corners.
Oh yeh, good luck with that.
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Old 04-26-2011, 02:06 PM
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The Tamiya soft rear tire is still very hard compared to others like Shimizu. I ran the UF1 at Corona two weeks ago and simply by changing the rear tires, my car went from sweeper-spun to super understeer. But again, this car is a lot easier to drive starting from under steer.

So I think my next step is:
1. Shimizu medium front
2. Shimizu soft rear
3. Medium spring front
4. Soft shock (red and Muchmore 400 oil)
5. Softest T-bar (high traction T-bar)

I think the above setup should, in theory, makes my car more neutral. Also, I use lay-down servo (need low-profile servo) so that I don't have bump-steer and I can adijust ackerman by moving the servo forward and aftward.
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I recently went back to a F104 set-up after having a play with the exotek chassis. I run the F60 FRP chassis and upper deck (with the upper deck cut like the newly released seperate upper deck).

I ran the following set-up over the weekend.

Front Tires Tamiya Rubber Hard's, with FXII applied to inside half of tire.
Rear Tires Shimzu Rubber Soft with Tamiya form inserts - cleaned with Simple green only.
Hard Springs Front - black springs
Tamiya Red Spring 20 Wt 3 Holes.
Soft T Bar with middle screw removed.
Ride Height 6.5mm front, 5.5mm rear

With this set-up, the car was the fastest I have ever run and most laps on the current layout. considering that we had rain 2 hr's before racing and was a cooler night, the car was simply great to drive.
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Body set question:

Does anybody know if Tamiya released the last three F1 kits in body set only?
the black JPS Lotus
the Yellow Camel 99T Lotus,
the McLaren MP4/6

If you know the body set part number and a source please post. We are also looking for the matching wheels for each car
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Originally Posted by gsxr0311 View Post
anybody get any of the new f104w kits?
F104W - McLaren MP4/6 here. It shares parts with my F103 - which helps in the "broken parts" department if I crash. Seems pretty durable, it already had a few run ins with nor-cal hobbies' new berms.





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Is the F104 just wider at the front due to the F103 suspension? or are the rear rims matching it?(F103 wheels?)

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F104W - McLaren MP4/6 here. It shares parts with my F103 - which helps in the "broken parts" department if I crash. Seems pretty durable, it already had a few run ins with nor-cal hobbies' new berms.





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Body set question:

Does anybody know if Tamiya released the last three F1 kits in body set only?
the black JPS Lotus
the Yellow Camel 99T Lotus,
the McLaren MP4/6

If you know the body set part number and a source please post. We are also looking for the matching wheels for each car
They have not released body parts sets, but I have the separate components to make body parts sets for the Lotus 99T on the way. They should be here in the next few days.
I have 4 sets available for sale. Cost shipped in the Lower 50 would be $55
As far as the others, as soon as they are available, I will be stocking them
PM me with any other questions, I also have the Wolf WR1 bodies in stock as well

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