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Old 04-03-2011, 09:04 AM
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I ran the separated upper deck along with the new heavy pivot mount in Chicago during practice. My guess is that these parts are designed more for asphalt and rubber tires. The car was very aggressive in the front end with that set up. I also had the upper mount spacers removed as well. In the end I ran the fiberglass lower deck, the full carbon upper deck, and the heavy pivot mount and the car was very good. I finished eighth after triple a mains. This was more a result of luck in traffic and lack of seat time than outright speed or handling. Had I been better in qualifying I think I could have run up front. The setup I am talking about was for foam tires on carpet, outdoors will be a different ballgame
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Why not make them yourself with some old foam tires??
You can shape them like you want and put in the shore you want also.
Works like a charm
Did it in the past with my M03 for the front tires.
Les wear,better grip and no more groves in the tires.

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Does anyone know who sells hard foam inserts for the f104
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Old 04-03-2011, 10:46 AM
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thanks pro 10 noob its a good idea i just wanted to know if there was a company who already makes them
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The only insert i know that would fit where the old wide Tamiya TC insert that where used on the TA01 and TA02 at the rear.
In the past i cut these up and glued them together again to get a firmer insert.
When i got a tire truer i used the old or new foam tires for inserts.

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thanks pro 10 noob its a good idea i just wanted to know if there was a company who already makes them
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Originally Posted by BP SHADOW View Post
I ran the separated upper deck along with the new heavy pivot mount in Chicago during practice. My guess is that these parts are designed more for asphalt and rubber tires. The car was very aggressive in the front end with that set up. I also had the upper mount spacers removed as well. In the end I ran the fiberglass lower deck, the full carbon upper deck, and the heavy pivot mount and the car was very good. I finished eighth after triple a mains. This was more a result of luck in traffic and lack of seat time than outright speed or handling. Had I been better in qualifying I think I could have run up front. The setup I am talking about was for foam tires on carpet, outdoors will be a different ballgame
Thank you so much for your feedback, BP SHADOW, what you tell is just what I want to hear, because I'll most of the time run the F104 on "zero grip" asphalt with rubber tyres, so it's just what I want to have like behaviour of my chassis, a direct front end and a good traction of the rear.

Just a question, what is the new heavy pivot mount?

As you try the separate upper deck, can you tell me if a hardcase LiPo battery with internal plug like a IP 5600 mAh 50C can fit perfectly on the chassis without any modification of it?

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Originally Posted by tcb22185 View Post
Think ill pass on urs. man stell uses stock crapy Top plate. And Almost Looks like a Copy of the Exotek.. just with Adj Side Links.
i guess you cant see very well, it does not use the "stock crappy" top plate and how is a tri shock anywhere near the exotec? not one piece on it is anything like the exotec. my top plate allows for droop adjustment without taking the shock apart and you can also use normal hard pack batteries. but yeah your right ,its a copy
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Old 04-03-2011, 12:44 PM
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tcb, how can you tell a man you'll test his chassis at some stage, then diss it saying it's crap based on looking at a picture? If you don't have something constructive to add, why say anything at all?
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Old 04-03-2011, 12:46 PM
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Originally Posted by MantisWorx View Post
i guess you cant see very well, it does not use the "stock crappy" top plate and how is a tri shock anywhere near the exotec? not one piece on it is anything like the exotec. my top plate allows for droop adjustment without taking the shock apart and you can also use normal hard pack batteries. but yeah your right ,its a copy
I looked all over ur website for pics of it all i seen was the bottom chassie plate on the home page. maby post a pic of the full chassie kit?
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Originally Posted by tcb22185 View Post
I looked all over ur website for pics of it all i seen was the bottom chassie plate on the home page. maby post a pic of the full chassie kit?
im about to rebuild the website this week, here is a pic of my car:

here is what im working on now!
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Originally Posted by theatriks View Post
Does anyone know who sells hard foam inserts for the f104
how would you classify existing factory inserts?
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Originally Posted by MantisWorx View Post
im about to rebuild the website this week, here is a pic of my car:

here is what im working on now!
Ok i withdraw my comment earlyer. what kind of side shocks are those? miniz? is there diffrent holes in the top plate to allow u to move the shock back for more rear droop? the front end looks crazy too.
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Originally Posted by tcb22185 View Post
Ok i withdraw my comment earlyer. what kind of side shocks are those? miniz? is there diffrent holes in the top plate to allow u to move the shock back for more rear droop? the front end looks crazy too.
the ones i sell with the kit are micro-t shocks. i use the yellow kyosho mini z shockson my personal car. Yes there are holes to adjust droop. the front allows for sliding caster adjustment and camber is adjustable via different plates.
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Originally Posted by G-rem View Post
Thank you so much for your feedback, BP SHADOW, what you tell is just what I want to hear, because I'll most of the time run the F104 on "zero grip" asphalt with rubber tyres, so it's just what I want to have like behaviour of my chassis, a direct front end and a good traction of the rear.

Just a question, what is the new heavy pivot mount?

As you try the separate upper deck, can you tell me if a hardcase LiPo battery with internal plug like a IP 5600 mAh 50C can fit perfectly on the chassis without any modification of it?

Thanks,
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I ran my Orion 3800 pack that has the tubes integral with the battery pack, and the front piece has clearance for them, cant confirm the 5000 though. The heavy pivot is made from cast steel and is supposed to make up for the lightness of the lithium packs. It is about double the weight of the aluminum one. Will let you know how the car works as I start getting it prepared for racing outdoors
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has any one takin the time to see how much wider the ride fronts are compard top the tamiya? i do notice the rides are a bit but i want to shim the rear to make them the same instede of the fronts being wider.
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fronts are 2mm wider, rear is 3mm wider
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