Go Back  R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road
Tamiya F104 Pro! >

Tamiya F104 Pro!

Like Tree12Likes

Tamiya F104 Pro!

Old 03-21-2011, 02:05 AM
  #4771  
Tech Elite
iTrader: (24)
 
2-Bad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Australia
Posts: 2,725
Trader Rating: 24 (100%+)
Default

Ooops, my Bad... I didn't read it properly (re: carpet)


@Art_Mighty = The "High Traction" is softer then Kit... I have been told, the Kit is the stiffest, then the Soft, then the softest is the "High Traction"

I've only tried the Kit & High traction plates myself....
2-Bad is offline  
Old 03-21-2011, 08:51 PM
  #4772  
Tech Regular
iTrader: (7)
 
@Art_Mighty's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 495
Trader Rating: 7 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by 2-Bad
Ooops, my Bad... I didn't read it properly (re: carpet)


@Art_Mighty = The "High Traction" is softer then Kit... I have been told, the Kit is the stiffest, then the Soft, then the softest is the "High Traction"

I've only tried the Kit & High traction plates myself....
Awesome! Thanks for clearing that up!
@Art_Mighty is offline  
Old 03-22-2011, 08:26 PM
  #4773  
Tech Initiate
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 26
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default still spinning out

Still having issues with the back end being quite loose and I'm quite sure its the tamiya rubber tires are the issue. The rears are about as hard as the fronts. Even though they are sticky as hell the back end comes around pretty easy. Its like one of you said, I can get about 3 or 4 laps in before the tires pick up track crap and then they glaze over and its sh!t. Have to find some foams, my buddy had foams on his last friday and he drove his car up the rear of my 12 scale!! Other tuning settings are for not until I get some decent tires.
JoeD. is offline  
Old 03-23-2011, 01:23 AM
  #4774  
Tech Elite
iTrader: (13)
 
Pro10noob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 2,196
Trader Rating: 13 (100%+)
Default

If you want to drive on rubber and you have to use Tamiya then type A slicks for the rear and type B slicks at the front.
If you want to try foams the HBR soft for the rear and HBR medium at the front is a good starting point.
And yes the HBR tires are stil out there on e-bay.
Or if you can get your hands on foams with a shore indication,start with 40 shore at the front and 36 or 30 for the rear.

regards Roy


Originally Posted by JoeD.
Still having issues with the back end being quite loose and I'm quite sure its the tamiya rubber tires are the issue. The rears are about as hard as the fronts. Even though they are sticky as hell the back end comes around pretty easy. Its like one of you said, I can get about 3 or 4 laps in before the tires pick up track crap and then they glaze over and its sh!t. Have to find some foams, my buddy had foams on his last friday and he drove his car up the rear of my 12 scale!! Other tuning settings are for not until I get some decent tires.
Pro10noob is offline  
Old 03-23-2011, 06:45 AM
  #4775  
Tech Initiate
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Nov 2008
Posts: 26
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default tire info

Thanks Roy, thats all good info I took note of and will use in my tire search.
JoeD. is offline  
Old 03-23-2011, 08:54 AM
  #4776  
Tech Elite
iTrader: (13)
 
Pro10noob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 2,196
Trader Rating: 13 (100%+)
Default

Your welcome

regards Roy

Originally Posted by JoeD.
Thanks Roy, thats all good info I took note of and will use in my tire search.
Pro10noob is offline  
Old 03-23-2011, 09:59 AM
  #4777  
Tech Champion
iTrader: (34)
 
F N CUDA's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Mission Viejo, So Cal
Posts: 5,908
Trader Rating: 34 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by JoeD.
Still having issues with the back end being quite loose and I'm quite sure its the tamiya rubber tires are the issue. The rears are about as hard as the fronts. Even though they are sticky as hell the back end comes around pretty easy. Its like one of you said, I can get about 3 or 4 laps in before the tires pick up track crap and then they glaze over and its sh!t. Have to find some foams, my buddy had foams on his last friday and he drove his car up the rear of my 12 scale!! Other tuning settings are for not until I get some decent tires.
Gotta get the Pit Shimzu tires front and rear if you choose rubber. tqrcracing.com has em
Do all the traction adding tips for the rear end, T bar, spring, shock oil and damper plate all super lite/free.
Stiff springs up front and raise the front ride height, lower the rear.
Make it push then start to dial in more steering by lowering the front height little at a time.
Only sauce the rears at first.
Originally Posted by Pro10noob
If you want to drive on rubber and you have to use Tamiya then type A slicks for the rear and type B slicks at the front.
If you want to try foams the HBR soft for the rear and HBR medium at the front is a good starting point.
And yes the HBR tires are stil out there on e-bay.
Or if you can get your hands on foams with a shore indication,start with 40 shore at the front and 36 or 30 for the rear.

regards Roy
Sounds like you are describing F103 tire compounds but he's dealing with a 104, no?
F N CUDA is offline  
Old 03-23-2011, 10:08 AM
  #4778  
Tech Elite
iTrader: (13)
 
Pro10noob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 2,196
Trader Rating: 13 (100%+)
Default

If so me bad
Another question from my side then??
Won't the F103 tires fit(just the tires) the F104?
Or are the tires different sizes?
If they do then you could use them?

regards Roy

Originally Posted by F N CUDA
Sounds like you are describing F103 tire compounds but he's dealing with a 104, no?
Pro10noob is offline  
Old 03-23-2011, 10:26 AM
  #4779  
Tech Champion
iTrader: (34)
 
F N CUDA's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Mission Viejo, So Cal
Posts: 5,908
Trader Rating: 34 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by Pro10noob
If so me bad
Another question from my side then??
Won't the F103 tires fit(just the tires) the F104?
Or are the tires different sizes?
If they do then you could use them?

regards Roy
Yeh they fit but they will make the rear end wider cuz of the width of the rear tires and to balance the stance you need the wide 103 front end otherwise with the narrow front end, tires being the same width, this thing will steer even more and make everything worse.
Then again, maybe just adding fatty 103 rears will get the rear stuck?
With the 103 front end and tires, it will be converted to the new F104W configuration which is not a bad thing either but the F103 is still, arguably (or not), better.
F N CUDA is offline  
Old 03-23-2011, 10:34 AM
  #4780  
Tech Elite
iTrader: (13)
 
Pro10noob's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2009
Location: The Netherlands
Posts: 2,196
Trader Rating: 13 (100%+)
Default

And by saying this, i am glad i still drive a F103

regards Roy


Originally Posted by F N CUDA
Then again, maybe just adding fatty 103 rears will get the rear stuck?
With the 103 front end and tires, it will be converted to the new F104W configuration which is not a bad thing either but the F103 is still, arguably (or not), better.
Pro10noob is offline  
Old 03-23-2011, 10:44 AM
  #4781  
Tech Champion
iTrader: (34)
 
F N CUDA's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Mission Viejo, So Cal
Posts: 5,908
Trader Rating: 34 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by Pro10noob
And by saying this, i am glad i still drive a F103

regards Roy
Having both is cool but the 103 is surely the race car.

Our Ultimate F1 series is off and running again and we have classes for Open which is anything goes and Realistic which is current F104 specs with 21.5 motor and rubber tires.

For the Open class it is without a doubt the 103 on foam with 13.5 (or even faster ) motors settin the pace for as long as you can keep a handle on em. Braaaaaaaap
F N CUDA is offline  
Old 03-23-2011, 11:12 AM
  #4782  
Tech Elite
iTrader: (24)
 
2-Bad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Australia
Posts: 2,725
Trader Rating: 24 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by Pro10noob
me bad
strange, I thought I was....
2-Bad is offline  
Old 03-23-2011, 02:24 PM
  #4783  
Tech Elite
iTrader: (46)
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Chicago, IL/St.Petersburg,FL
Posts: 2,316
Trader Rating: 46 (100%+)
Default

hey guys im looking at a BLACK EDITION is there anything different from the
F104 pro standard edition.

Thanks!
transplantlife is offline  
Old 03-23-2011, 02:27 PM
  #4784  
Tech Champion
iTrader: (22)
 
robk's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: Macho Business Donkey Wrestler
Posts: 8,191
Trader Rating: 22 (100%+)
Default

Black addition had more aluminum I believe- motor mount pivot post, etc.
robk is offline  
Old 03-23-2011, 02:28 PM
  #4785  
Tech Elite
iTrader: (24)
 
2-Bad's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Australia
Posts: 2,725
Trader Rating: 24 (100%+)
Default

Originally Posted by transplantlife
hey guys im looking at a BLACK EDITION
Once u try Black, u never go back, hehehehe
2-Bad is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2023 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.