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Old 01-18-2011, 07:02 PM
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Thanx for your kind comments!

You can buy the Virgin sheet from "cosmosaml" on ebay.

I was too lazy to mask the lines so I cut stripes from a white vinyl sheet.
What kind of material are the decals printed on? Is it flexible?
I have 2 or 3 of the Virgin/Mercedes DDrive sheets, they are for sale if anyone is interested, although I do want to do this car, among others.
I am just about done with two projects that need to get done, so I will be working to have some new stuff soon. I am hoping to have cars and bodies on hand to sell very soon. Will have kits and parts as well. I also just got a shipment of stainless screws, so stainless screw kits for 103's and 104's are coming as well
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Hey guys here's a TCS F1 visual for you.

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Old 01-19-2011, 01:44 AM
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Hi guys,

I'm new to F1-rc and just ordered a F104 pro black special kit and plan on running it with Tamiya rubber tire (front - hard , rear - soft) and F60 bodykit on low to medium grip asphalt.
I actually read nearly the whole f104pro but I still have a couple of questions about driving in low to medium grip condition (no sugar or other preparation) with rubber tire and 1s -lipo (which means a much lighter car):

1. especially to people who drove both - standard f104 and f104 exotek conversion kit: is it really worth buying or is a standard f104 layout with the right options and good setup almost as driveable.

2. is the f104 driveable at all with low weight layout without exotek?? (I don't want my f104 to become a gyro)

3. is my choosen tires good for low weight setup - low grip conditions (I don't want foami's at all)

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Old 01-19-2011, 03:59 AM
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Originally Posted by HeliYogi View Post
Hey guys here's a TCS F1 visual for you.

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Wow those are some great looking cars. Those soft tire indicator decals, does anyone know where to get those or did the guy make them?
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Old 01-19-2011, 04:58 AM
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...Those soft tire indicator decals, does anyone know where to get those or did the guy make them?
I guess it's tire stickers from Chevron Models>>



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yeah, very nice picture of the those f1 cars.
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2011 1st TQ Pan Car Grand Prix is up this Sunday.

Track will be open at 9am, Race will start 12pm.

We will have Trophies for the winners and Raffles for every racers.

Pre-Signup racers will get one more raffle ticket, click here for pre-signup.

Also, there will be Ultimate F1 Winter Series Round 6 on this Saturday.

Open at 10am, Race at 1pm.

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Originally Posted by Shqizy View Post
Hi guys,

I'm new to F1-rc and just ordered a F104 pro ...

1. especially to people who drove both - standard f104 and f104 exotek conversion kit: is it really worth buying or is a standard f104 layout with the right options and good setup almost as driveable.

First start with your kit, its fun as it is (before you spend more $)

2. is the f104 driveable at all with low weight layout without exotek?? (I don't want my f104 to become a gyro)

You can always add weigth, I like to run the F60 kit metal axle it adds balance. Experiment with weights (front and rear) until the car is even in and out of turns.

3. is my choosen tires good for low weight setup - low grip conditions (I don't want foami's at all)

We run Tamiya Kit in front (51399) and soft rear (54199)
once you become proficient (and good at gluing them) you can advance to Pit Shimitzu (check the UF1 web site for parts #), super grip but fragile, challenging to glue and expensive.



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Hope this helps (and saves you $)

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Originally Posted by Shqizy View Post
1. especially to people who drove both - standard f104 and f104 exotek conversion kit: is it really worth buying or is a standard f104 layout with the right options and good setup almost as driveable.

2. is the f104 driveable at all with low weight layout without exotek?? (I don't want my f104 to become a gyro)

3. is my choosen tires good for low weight setup - low grip conditions (I don't want foami's at all)

regards,
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Oliver,
1. Never ran the Exotek Chassis and probably never will. Something wrong when an F1 cost nearly as much as a touring car... IMO F104's should be run under strict rubber tire F1 replica rules... (no Exotek chassic, no Corally F1's, no F103 F1's, no HPI F1's... just my opinion)

2. Yes!!!

3. Yes!!! and you might even find the car pushes and need to switch to the kit tires

Here's is my current setup which may assist you....

Front: (everything kit set except)
Toe - 0.5 deg out
Droop - 0.5mm
Spindle shaft - diff grease
Spring - black
Ride height - 6.5mm
Steering throw - maximum

Rear: (everything kit set except)
Droop - 2.0mm (5mm spacer in shock)
T-plate tension - 1xO-ring & loose
T-plate type - High Traction plate
Friction plate lube - 15wt shock oil
Friction plate - teflon covered
Friction plate tension - 2mm
Shock oil - 20wt
Shock spring - HPI copper (8lb)
Ride height - 6.5mm
Axle - steel
Diff grease - associated stealth (black writing)
Diff tension - as loose as possible without slipping.

General
Esc - tekin rs
Servo - Airtonics 94851 (12th scale micro)
Motor - Speed Passion 21.5
Battery - IP4200 LiPo
Tires - Tamiya kit (frt & rr mediums I think they are)
Traction - FXII full frt & rr baked 60deg C, for 15min before race.
Ambient - 27 deg max
Track - asphalt, technical.

Hope this helps you out...
Peter
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any one know where i can buy a steel allen bolt kit for the f104 i got the non pro kit but want to upgrade the screws.
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104's in a 104 class are perfectly capable of going fast and really fun to watch, but throw in EXO, TRG, 103's they don't have a chance. I agree that 104 should be a class of it's own, but thats never going to happen unless you run the TCS series races.

There are a few guys that race the EXO at my track and they outshine by far over stock 104. This is on carpet. I suspect that the car will perform even better on asphalt. Link type cars will have the edge over t-plate because you can set up the rear of the car better and there is no tweak issues.

I have both a 103 and a 104 and the 104 pales in comparison when it comes to performance. The inline battery just doesn't do it. At least for me, but I haven't given up yet. I am going to set my car up for rubber tyre this coming outdoor season.

So to answer your question. Yes the Exotek is worth every penny if your serious about racing AND if you want to really win get a 103

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I'm going to start running my F104 in the "W" wide configuration on rubber and foam.

The W is basically the F104 with the wider front end and wider wheels and tires from the F103.

May just be able to park the F103, god I love that car but maybe the inline battery and extra length will actually be better?

Kinda wondering about the different T plate configurations tho.

Is the F103 setup better in this area? Hmmmm.

Gonna hit the carpet this weekend for the UF1 rubber series and the foam testing will come later, on asphalt and carpet.
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A wide exotek has been almost exactly the same speed as a 103 for me, but the exotek is easier to drive. I think the length helps with that. I also think the length would be helpful on asphalt.
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A wide exotek has been almost exactly the same speed as a 103 for me, but the exotek is easier to drive. I think the length helps with that. I also think the length would be helpful on asphalt.
Are you running the setup suggested in the exotek instructions? (45wt oil in main shock,blue sidesprings ,25 in the roll damper)I can't seem to find any other setup help for the exo104
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Are you running the setup suggested in the exotek instructions? (45wt oil in main shock,blue sidesprings ,25 in the roll damper)I can't seem to find any other setup help for the exo104
I ran red or white CRC side springs (had 'em), 35 in the roll damper, blue tamiya short spring (like for the mini cars), 103 standard front end, tamiya black spring. I think I ran 40 in the main shock, but it could have been 45. I have been working on my regular 104 setup, so it's been a bit since I worked on the exotek.

The side springs seem to correlate to 1/12 setup, so if all the 1/12 guys gravitate to one side spring, that's a good place to start.
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