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Old 06-23-2010, 03:22 PM   #2941
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if the new T-bar is of the same material as the older soft T-bar, removing the centre screw on the new T-bar will give the same setting as using the older soft T-bar without the centre screw, right?
That's what I was thinkin.

Anyone tried both of the option t bars with and without the center screw?

Also thinkin the t bars are more drastic on the graphite/pro chassis?

My F60 (rubber kit tires front and options rear) was pretty good with the kit t bar but did see some improvement with the new one on.
Might just be pushin into the corners too much but feels better comin out.

Only got to run it for a short time tho.
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Old 06-23-2010, 10:25 PM   #2942
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Hi Guys ..... anyone interested in sharing some set up tips for the F104. Just getting into F1 after many years in Touring Cars and have no idea where to start with a pan chassis. What adjustments do what .... We run on medium traction asphalt and intend to run rubber tyres.

Hope I can get some answers ...... Thanks,
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Old 06-24-2010, 12:38 AM   #2943
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well i like the sound of the more stability and ability to get the power down out of a turn guess it time to order one

are you running the center screw or not?

I'm using it with the centre screw and just the small O ring with 1.5 - 2mm of thread poking through the nut
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Old 06-24-2010, 06:39 AM   #2944
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The 3-racing f109 shock comes with a VERY soft clear o-ring.
I use this in the center spot with a few mm of thread showing past the nut.
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Old 06-24-2010, 09:34 AM   #2945
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I ran with the screw in place, but backed it WAY out, something to the tune of 3mm. I would have just removed it, but didn't want to run afoul of the TCS rules which read, "Any modification not called out specifically in these rules is not legal", "No chassis lightening allowed", as well as "The F104 chassis must be built per the instruction manual. Altering its basic structure and design is prohibited." Granted, I was being extra cautious and the guys in tech were simply looking for the bigger issues like high RPM motors and non-Tamiya tires. But I figured better to be safe than sorry. Moral of the story, the car worked better with more pod articulation.
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Old 06-24-2010, 12:36 PM   #2946
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Where's the best place to buy replacement parts for the F104's that have them in stock? I lost the c-clips and can't find them.

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Old 06-24-2010, 02:48 PM   #2947
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Default F104 roll out

Hopefully you guy's can help me ,can a rs sport tuned black can handle a 50.6 roll out with out frying the motor , tire 50mm pinion 30 spur gear 93t or should I gear it down I'm running this weekend in a TCS race it's a pretty big track.
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Where's the best place to buy replacement parts for the F104's that have them in stock? I lost the c-clips and can't find them.

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Try SpeedtechRC.com. There in the city of san gabriel
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Is anyone aware of a wet weather rubber tire for the 104 ?
For those truly adventurous drivers who race F1's in the rain, what tires do you use ? I would really love to race in rain one day
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Back when our F103 series was still going strong we found the normal rubber tires we ran in the dry also worked better in the wet than the treaded Pro-Line tires. With both the capped rubber tires and the B compound rubber tires grip would actually get better once the track was wet enough. When it was just starting to get wet it would be very slippery but once the track was quite went the grip was good. I would imagine the same would hold true for the F104.
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Back when our F103 series was still going strong we found the normal rubber tires we ran in the dry also worked better in the wet than the treaded Pro-Line tires. With both the capped rubber tires and the B compound rubber tires grip would actually get better once the track was wet enough. When it was just starting to get wet it would be very slippery but once the track was quite went the grip was good. I would imagine the same would hold true for the F104.
That is exactly what I found too.
The Soft capped tires were magic in the wet, the car had far more grip than in the dry.
You would aim for the damp parts of the track, if the water was too deep the car would hydro-plane on the chassis, you had to be careful where to put it.
Good times when the rain would stop and start during a run
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So basically go with the softest compound , and that should do it right ? ...
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Is anyone aware of a wet weather rubber tire for the 104 ?
For those truly adventurous drivers who race F1's in the rain, what tires do you use ? I would really love to race in rain one day
i recently ran mine in the rain, during a rain delay at the track...

it hooked up pretty good, was running the optional soft rears - kinda hooked up better then in the dry
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Is there any difference between the titan and the alloy turnbuckles? Except from the material...
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