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Old 04-29-2010, 10:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Big Daddy Cool
Thanks Arahawak. This confirms a lot of things for me but how do the A foams in particular compare to the Kit foams. Are they considerably superior in terms of grip and wear? Thanks
Wait, you are talking about 104 foams right?

Kit foams are A foams if you are. Option foams are B foams
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Old 04-29-2010, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by ultegrasti
can any1 confirm that TCS F104 is still tryin to use rubber tires. or have they gone foam as well? thx

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Trackside decided to have a 104 only foam class since initial testing of the option rubber tires proved very dismal, to the point of being undriveable. Nobody ran in Omaha since the kit rubbers are a non starter on carpet as well.

I would imagine at the outdoor tracks, rubber tires will work nicely. I ran mine in pretty cool weather on a dusty track and the car was ok.
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Old 04-29-2010, 03:32 PM
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I have been running 1/12th scale and 1/10 scale for the last few years. Just got a 104pro. I am mainly running with the stock setup. The front camber is 2.5 all the springs are stock and and the tires. I only run on asphault, the last few times I went out the car pushes really bad. I am not sure if it is because I am driving it wrong or if there is something I need to change on it. I did notice that if I slow down a considerable amount the car turns fine but to me I think it is too slow. Any help would be appreciated.
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Originally Posted by robk
I would imagine at the outdoor tracks, rubber tires will work nicely. I ran mine in pretty cool weather on a dusty track and the car was ok.
I would agree that the Tamiya rubbers are highly surface-dependent. Based on my own experience, saying that they work on all outdoor tracks is rather kind. I've tried both the kit ones and the optional soft rears. The fronts aren't actually too bad. Maybe with some track treatment they might work better, but there are other rubbers for the F104 that work much, much better. I just wish they could now mold them for the Tamiya rims, which are more robust.

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I have been running 1/12th scale and 1/10 scale for the last few years. Just got a 104pro. I am mainly running with the stock setup. The front camber is 2.5 all the springs are stock and and the tires. I only run on asphault, the last few times I went out the car pushes really bad. I am not sure if it is because I am driving it wrong or if there is something I need to change on it. I did notice that if I slow down a considerable amount the car turns fine but to me I think it is too slow. Any help would be appreciated.
Try switching back to the 0 degree camber and make sure your diff is quite free. With the right tyres, it should do well, but given you're not complaining about spinning, then the tyres can't be too far from the mark. Experiment with a range of friction plate tightening via the blue nut. Also, just make sure that the front suspension isn't binding.

Once it's close, it's a lot of fun.
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Originally Posted by PDR
I would agree that the Tamiya rubbers are highly surface-dependent. Based on my own experience, saying that they work on all outdoor tracks is rather kind. I've tried both the kit ones and the optional soft rears. The fronts aren't actually too bad. Maybe with some track treatment they might work better, but there are other rubbers for the F104 that work much, much better. I just wish they could now mold them for the Tamiya rims, which are more robust.
That comment was mostly in reference to the Tamiya Championship Series racing. You're sort of stuck with Tamiya rubber I hear a lot of nice things about Ride tires, just hard to get...
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what lipos is everyone running?
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Originally Posted by tenpins77
what lipos is everyone running?
Finding one that fits is the main requirement. Lipos in the shape of a sub-C stick pack fit best -- the top deck posts are shaped for them. Most other small-ish lipo packs can be crammed in. I have squeezed a 4000 Zippy and Orion 3800 in, but have had to loosen up all the posts, install the battery, then tighten it all up again.

If you use a pack with bullet connectors on top, the best option is to install it with the plugs towards the rear of the car and dremel out a couple of notches in the top deck for plug access. Make sure there's no possibility of the battery shorting to the top deck.
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Originally Posted by tenpins77
what lipos is everyone running?
this is what i'm running

https://www.ssl-stormerhobbies.com/c...ns&pn=PEK00544

fits nice and got lots of runtime
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nice, peak products work for me
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Are you guys running standard size servos or mini servos in the f104??
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Originally Posted by Potoczak
Are you guys running standard size servos or mini servos in the f104??
I'm running a standard size servo. Operationally, it works very well. I'm thinking of switching to a low-profile version so I can route the battery cable behind it, rather than on the side of the chassis.
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RobK:

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I've seen a lot of rubber tire recommendations on this thread, and it seems that track temp and condition are huge factors in performance. I'll be running a traveling parking lot series on asphalt surfaces that are less than perfect -- rough, dusty, unprepped. I have zero rubber tire experience with the 104.

Anybody got advice?
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I have a set of the RIDE S1 Super Soft tires, and they seem to work fairly well everywhere, with low wear.
I hear the H1 compounds are good too.

For the RIDE tires you will need the RIDE wheels.

Tamiya tires seem to wear out failry quick, and don't offer any more grip than the RIDES.

Pit Shimizu are ok, but not as durable as the RIDES.

To be honest, none of the 104 rubber tires are impressive compared to the 103 rubbers, but this is what we have so far.


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Looks like there are some Rides in my future. Many thanks for the info.

Do you run the super soft front and rear, or different compounds on each end?
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