57LikesThe Speed Passion Thread
04-05-2010, 07:34 PM
#3691
Hi guys.
Ran the Beta again on sunday, and it was really good. The only thing that let it down was my rubbish tyre prep and driving.
heres a vid from one of the finals:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smv7OMO7pLA
im sat pole in this race, using schumacher with a SP gt2.0 with the supercharger. The guy behind me was using a Tekin, we were both using same motors. Annoyingly i could have TQ'd the meeting if i didnt role it in qualifying - that would have been something to brag about to the tekin boys
good work SP guys
Ran the Beta again on sunday, and it was really good. The only thing that let it down was my rubbish tyre prep and driving.
heres a vid from one of the finals:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smv7OMO7pLA
im sat pole in this race, using schumacher with a SP gt2.0 with the supercharger. The guy behind me was using a Tekin, we were both using same motors. Annoyingly i could have TQ'd the meeting if i didnt role it in qualifying - that would have been something to brag about to the tekin boys
good work SP guys
Hows about sharing your settings, FDR, motor timing, etc.. thanks!
04-06-2010, 01:55 AM
#3692
Tech Adept
settings were:
Duo2 13.5 with 12 degrees advancement on endbell
FDR: 6.96 (89 spur, 23 pinion, 1.8 internal ratio)
Motor was coming off around 65-75 degrees C after 5 minutes.
software used: 318
settings:
DRRS: 7
ATMS: 5
12: 7
13: 1
14: 3
15: 5
Next thing i want to play with is increasing the RPM delay and removing motor-can timing to reduce the temps a little.
I tried setting DRRS to 8 eariler in the day (when it was cooler) and it increase motor temps but not lap times - so taking it back to 7 made the motor cooler but no slower.
I also tried reducing 14 to setting 2 (0.1 second delay) but it made the car harder to drive onto the straight and on the infield. it also increased motor temps due to the low rpm delay.
ideally ide like to keep the time delay as low as possible (off if preferable) and go on RPM delay. it appears to wait till full throttle before engaging on 318 - but if someone could confirm that, it would be really useful
definitely more testing required. ive now run it 3 times and its getting better each time, but theres still lots to test on it.
next step is again rpm and fdr changes to find that sweet spot... im hoping that when i find the sweet spot for the motor / track combo, it should be fairly similar on other tracks - with a few minor adjustments to delays.
Duo2 13.5 with 12 degrees advancement on endbell
FDR: 6.96 (89 spur, 23 pinion, 1.8 internal ratio)
Motor was coming off around 65-75 degrees C after 5 minutes.
software used: 318
settings:
DRRS: 7
ATMS: 5
12: 7
13: 1
14: 3
15: 5
Next thing i want to play with is increasing the RPM delay and removing motor-can timing to reduce the temps a little.
I tried setting DRRS to 8 eariler in the day (when it was cooler) and it increase motor temps but not lap times - so taking it back to 7 made the motor cooler but no slower.
I also tried reducing 14 to setting 2 (0.1 second delay) but it made the car harder to drive onto the straight and on the infield. it also increased motor temps due to the low rpm delay.
ideally ide like to keep the time delay as low as possible (off if preferable) and go on RPM delay. it appears to wait till full throttle before engaging on 318 - but if someone could confirm that, it would be really useful
definitely more testing required. ive now run it 3 times and its getting better each time, but theres still lots to test on it.
next step is again rpm and fdr changes to find that sweet spot... im hoping that when i find the sweet spot for the motor / track combo, it should be fairly similar on other tracks - with a few minor adjustments to delays.
04-06-2010, 02:45 AM
#3693
Hi, is there a known problem with version 3 motors.
been using one for 2 days, and it suddenly went into 540 silver can speeds. Removed a shim on the sensors side trick, still no go. Another 2 guys are having cogging issues. Ran really conservative settings and never overheated. Changed sensor wire, dont know what else to do! Might have a crap on it latter
been using one for 2 days, and it suddenly went into 540 silver can speeds. Removed a shim on the sensors side trick, still no go. Another 2 guys are having cogging issues. Ran really conservative settings and never overheated. Changed sensor wire, dont know what else to do! Might have a crap on it latter
04-06-2010, 07:42 AM
#3696
Tech Rookie
as soon as you talk about foam and asphalt I think your mails gets ignored because the guys run rubber tyres or carpet and on foam tyres. I suggest you go back and read from about pg230 for advice. There is a lot of useful information. Razzor has been very helpful wrt technical advice, a big thanks to him.
04-06-2010, 09:27 AM
#3697
i have tested this week-end the Speed passion 2.1 software with a speed passion V3 10.5 . I have drived with 5.1 in ratio and the timing at 26. On a run of 7 minutes the motor was in 80° but it's more fast than the soft of the SP 2.0
Sorry for my English, i'm french
Sorry for my English, i'm french
04-06-2010, 11:09 AM
#3698
Thank you
04-06-2010, 11:13 AM
#3699
it's the original firmware ( the 110 )
04-06-2010, 11:44 AM
#3700
wow... i use fdr 7,1 DMTS at 5 (15°) and DRRS at 6 on a circuit with a 25m of stright and rest is medium speed (at the end is a medium tech track).
But i never had the motor over 55°C (SP v3 10,5) and the esc over 22°C
For me you are using a little bit too much AMTS value...i suggest you to start with something more around at 15° and reduce a little bit your FDR (may be start at about 7,0 but depend on your track size)
Forgot to say i use the endbell timing over the motor a little bit less than +10 (i can say at about +8)
Bye
But i never had the motor over 55°C (SP v3 10,5) and the esc over 22°C
For me you are using a little bit too much AMTS value...i suggest you to start with something more around at 15° and reduce a little bit your FDR (may be start at about 7,0 but depend on your track size)
Forgot to say i use the endbell timing over the motor a little bit less than +10 (i can say at about +8)
Bye
04-06-2010, 01:35 PM
#3701
Tech Rookie
If it's the next thing on from 230/231 ........ that is being tested by team drivers only ........... what relevance is this post to us mere mortals who only have access to 230/231 ??????
When might we see a "proper" official software down load available from Speed Passion (on their website)??
This all seems to be dragging on a bit now!
04-06-2010, 02:00 PM
#3702
What is "software 318" ????
If it's the next thing on from 230/231 ........ that is being tested by team drivers only ........... what relevance is this post to us mere mortals who only have access to 230/231 ??????
When might we see a "proper" official software down load available from Speed Passion (on their website)??
This all seems to be dragging on a bit now!
If it's the next thing on from 230/231 ........ that is being tested by team drivers only ........... what relevance is this post to us mere mortals who only have access to 230/231 ??????
When might we see a "proper" official software down load available from Speed Passion (on their website)??
This all seems to be dragging on a bit now!
04-06-2010, 05:19 PM
#3703
Hi, is there a known problem with version 3 motors.
been using one for 2 days, and it suddenly went into 540 silver can speeds. Removed a shim on the sensors side trick, still no go. Another 2 guys are having cogging issues. Ran really conservative settings and never overheated. Changed sensor wire, dont know what else to do! Might have a crap on it latter
been using one for 2 days, and it suddenly went into 540 silver can speeds. Removed a shim on the sensors side trick, still no go. Another 2 guys are having cogging issues. Ran really conservative settings and never overheated. Changed sensor wire, dont know what else to do! Might have a crap on it latter