The Speed Passion Thread
#2536
Tech Master
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I've been changing over to SP ESC's, etc. after years of buying Novak... Now...?
#2538
Tech Addict
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I hate to ask, but is there any way to get the performance out of the SP LPF comparable to the Tekin RS or Mamba Max Pro? I recently installed the LPF in my sedan with an Orion Vortex 17.5 and simply cannot hang with the other guys that have gone the way of the boost/turbo. I've tried the 110 and 107 versions and prefer the 107. I'm running a 6.0 FDR with 26 degree timing on the ESC and about half the timing advance on the motor (sorry, don't have exact degrees at the moment).
Last night I pulled off the track at 170F degrees on the motor so I'm pushing it about as hard as I can. The Tekin/MMP guys are coming off the track much cooler and are faster. I'm still tinkering with gearing but I don't think that's really the issue. The other guys' acceleration AND top speed blow me away. Some are running the same car and close to same setup so it can't be that. One guy running a SP is hanging with them but still just barely hanging and his temps are way too high.
My theory is that since the other ESC's are adjusting timing based on RPM they are essentially shifting gears. At low RPM they have the torque of low timing advance then it increases at higher RPM when the load isn't as great. This generates less heat so they can gear higher. Correct me if I'm wrong here. I'm a bit of a noob in this area.
Can we expect the next software update to get the Speed Passion LPF on the same level as the Tekin? Am I just missing something and it already is if setup properly?
Last night I pulled off the track at 170F degrees on the motor so I'm pushing it about as hard as I can. The Tekin/MMP guys are coming off the track much cooler and are faster. I'm still tinkering with gearing but I don't think that's really the issue. The other guys' acceleration AND top speed blow me away. Some are running the same car and close to same setup so it can't be that. One guy running a SP is hanging with them but still just barely hanging and his temps are way too high.
My theory is that since the other ESC's are adjusting timing based on RPM they are essentially shifting gears. At low RPM they have the torque of low timing advance then it increases at higher RPM when the load isn't as great. This generates less heat so they can gear higher. Correct me if I'm wrong here. I'm a bit of a noob in this area.
Can we expect the next software update to get the Speed Passion LPF on the same level as the Tekin? Am I just missing something and it already is if setup properly?
#2539
Well the fact that Adam and Shawn haven't posted in this thread for awhile, we might not get the level of "forum support" from Speed Passion and/or Schumacher.
This is not good at all.
This is not good at all.
#2541
I hate to ask, but is there any way to get the performance out of the SP LPF comparable to the Tekin RS or Mamba Max Pro? I recently installed the LPF in my sedan with an Orion Vortex 17.5 and simply cannot hang with the other guys that have gone the way of the boost/turbo. I've tried the 110 and 107 versions and prefer the 107. I'm running a 6.0 FDR with 26 degree timing on the ESC and about half the timing advance on the motor (sorry, don't have exact degrees at the moment).
Last night I pulled off the track at 170F degrees on the motor so I'm pushing it about as hard as I can. The Tekin/MMP guys are coming off the track much cooler and are faster. I'm still tinkering with gearing but I don't think that's really the issue. The other guys' acceleration AND top speed blow me away. Some are running the same car and close to same setup so it can't be that. One guy running a SP is hanging with them but still just barely hanging and his temps are way too high.
My theory is that since the other ESC's are adjusting timing based on RPM they are essentially shifting gears. At low RPM they have the torque of low timing advance then it increases at higher RPM when the load isn't as great. This generates less heat so they can gear higher. Correct me if I'm wrong here. I'm a bit of a noob in this area.
Can we expect the next software update to get the Speed Passion LPF on the same level as the Tekin? Am I just missing something and it already is if setup properly?
Last night I pulled off the track at 170F degrees on the motor so I'm pushing it about as hard as I can. The Tekin/MMP guys are coming off the track much cooler and are faster. I'm still tinkering with gearing but I don't think that's really the issue. The other guys' acceleration AND top speed blow me away. Some are running the same car and close to same setup so it can't be that. One guy running a SP is hanging with them but still just barely hanging and his temps are way too high.
My theory is that since the other ESC's are adjusting timing based on RPM they are essentially shifting gears. At low RPM they have the torque of low timing advance then it increases at higher RPM when the load isn't as great. This generates less heat so they can gear higher. Correct me if I'm wrong here. I'm a bit of a noob in this area.
Can we expect the next software update to get the Speed Passion LPF on the same level as the Tekin? Am I just missing something and it already is if setup properly?
Try returning the motor and ESC timing to the defaults - the reduced mechanical timing gives you some punch and temperature back. Then add teeth to the pinion.
With my 13.5 setup I had tried the "max timing, gear down" approach and it didn't work any where near as well as the "standard timing, gear up" approach.
#2542
Tech Master
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I hate to ask, but is there any way to get the performance out of the SP LPF comparable to the Tekin RS or Mamba Max Pro? I recently installed the LPF in my sedan with an Orion Vortex 17.5 and simply cannot hang with the other guys that have gone the way of the boost/turbo. I've tried the 110 and 107 versions and prefer the 107. I'm running a 6.0 FDR with 26 degree timing on the ESC and about half the timing advance on the motor (sorry, don't have exact degrees at the moment).
Last night I pulled off the track at 170F degrees on the motor so I'm pushing it about as hard as I can. The Tekin/MMP guys are coming off the track much cooler and are faster. I'm still tinkering with gearing but I don't think that's really the issue. The other guys' acceleration AND top speed blow me away. Some are running the same car and close to same setup so it can't be that. One guy running a SP is hanging with them but still just barely hanging and his temps are way too high.
My theory is that since the other ESC's are adjusting timing based on RPM they are essentially shifting gears. At low RPM they have the torque of low timing advance then it increases at higher RPM when the load isn't as great. This generates less heat so they can gear higher. Correct me if I'm wrong here. I'm a bit of a noob in this area.
Can we expect the next software update to get the Speed Passion LPF on the same level as the Tekin? Am I just missing something and it already is if setup properly?
Last night I pulled off the track at 170F degrees on the motor so I'm pushing it about as hard as I can. The Tekin/MMP guys are coming off the track much cooler and are faster. I'm still tinkering with gearing but I don't think that's really the issue. The other guys' acceleration AND top speed blow me away. Some are running the same car and close to same setup so it can't be that. One guy running a SP is hanging with them but still just barely hanging and his temps are way too high.
My theory is that since the other ESC's are adjusting timing based on RPM they are essentially shifting gears. At low RPM they have the torque of low timing advance then it increases at higher RPM when the load isn't as great. This generates less heat so they can gear higher. Correct me if I'm wrong here. I'm a bit of a noob in this area.
Can we expect the next software update to get the Speed Passion LPF on the same level as the Tekin? Am I just missing something and it already is if setup properly?
duo 2 17.5
78 spur, 28 pinion 48pitch gears
FDR = 4.74
motor timing to second mark, 20 degree???
"DRRS" = 9
"AMTS = 8
car is fast and has good bottom end as well...I run on aspalt tracks..just watch your motor temps...and were all waiting for a program update
#2543
as much as i love adam, not in a gay way, sorry adam, I'm sure everything will work out fine. isn't Josh C. the speedpassion rep, or something for the usa.
#2546
Tech Addict
iTrader: (11)
No, unfortunately I don't have access to a different 17.5. I plan to eventually get a V3 but don't have the cash for it now. I don't think there's anything "wrong" with the Orion and I've only gotten it to 170 that one time.
I'm going to tinker with gearing/timing some tomorrow and see what I can get it to do. The track is 50x80 I believe, carpet.
I'm going to tinker with gearing/timing some tomorrow and see what I can get it to do. The track is 50x80 I believe, carpet.
#2547
Tech Adept
I'm running the same LPF in my Xray T2 007 set up for RCGT...I run the 107.
duo 2 17.5
78 spur, 28 pinion 48pitch gears
FDR = 4.74
motor timing to second mark, 20 degree???
"DRRS" = 9
"AMTS = 8
car is fast and has good bottom end as well...I run on aspalt tracks..just watch your motor temps...and were all waiting for a program update
duo 2 17.5
78 spur, 28 pinion 48pitch gears
FDR = 4.74
motor timing to second mark, 20 degree???
"DRRS" = 9
"AMTS = 8
car is fast and has good bottom end as well...I run on aspalt tracks..just watch your motor temps...and were all waiting for a program update
#2549
Tech Legend
iTrader: (294)
No, unfortunately I don't have access to a different 17.5. I plan to eventually get a V3 but don't have the cash for it now. I don't think there's anything "wrong" with the Orion and I've only gotten it to 170 that one time.
I'm going to tinker with gearing/timing some tomorrow and see what I can get it to do. The track is 50x80 I believe, carpet.
I'm going to tinker with gearing/timing some tomorrow and see what I can get it to do. The track is 50x80 I believe, carpet.
- Reset everything on your Speedo and Radio
- Reconfigure your Speedo and Radio together as suggested by Adam on here
- See if someone could try out your motor at the track, and you try there "fast" one