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Old 12-21-2010, 01:53 AM   #1366
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Hello Jilles,

congratulation to your Child, can you sleep?

My Children are 12 an 16, i can sleep

Have you a Besic Setup for 417 for me?
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Old 12-21-2010, 01:22 PM   #1367
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Congratulations for the birth of the child. I wish you Merry Christmas and Happy New Year.

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Old 12-26-2010, 09:17 AM   #1368
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Hello Jilles .
I have a question.
I drive the tamiya 416 we with smokem chassis FX.
And I have always ne-less Rear.
Does it perhaps together with the Droopstop aways
Drive front 6mm and rear 5mm.
Vehical height is 5mm Fornt and Rear5,5mm.
Front Springs Tamiya white Rear Tamiya blue.
Oil damper 400 .
Camber Front 1,5 , rear 2 degree.
Rollcenter front 4mm 2mm behind.
Maybe you´re still a littel tip for me
I´m going to carpet .
We met at the World Cup in Burgdorf.
I think it´s cool that one can ask what do you here, keep it up

Greeting Stefan from germany.
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Old 12-26-2010, 04:44 PM   #1369
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hello Jilles
could you tell me a tune for very low grip track.
what steps you would take to go from standard tuning to a set-up for a track with little grip
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Old 12-27-2010, 01:23 AM   #1370
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Had anyone used a Orion motor with a GM esc running version 13 of the software?

have a 5.5 and 4.5 in 12th scale any advice would be good
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Old 12-27-2010, 01:29 AM   #1371
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Where do you get the red foam to use on the shock bladder below the cap?
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Old 01-12-2011, 07:21 PM   #1372
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Dear Racers,

Back to the thread! I have had some really good tests with the 417 over the last weeks. Later this week I will post some set-ups, first need to find a 417 set-up sheet!!

And to one of the moderators, can you change the thread name to:

"Ask" Jilles Groskamp Tamiya 416 & 417, Team Orion Motors

Back to your questions:

- Ed (Tryhard)
Nice you can make it to the TITC race, it's really awesome track and good facility! See you soon!

- Mugen10
If you use 1mm shims under the front suspension the car will become more smooth to drive, without shims it should behave more aggressive.
When running under cold surface I suggest soft tyres like Sorex 24R.
Also rim and insert should be soft.

- Hi Jonest
See you at TITC! Some of your buddies where at the Futuba Cup last week.

- Oli
Thanks for your message, sure see you somewhere soon!

- Chico1977
I always run 46mm and 44mm driveshaft.
This gives most traction. When running diff in the rear you might want to cut something from the diff screw.

- Hi Ed!
It has been very busy with the baby but a great new experience!
See you!

- srw_g
Thanks!
1. I never use any shim or spacer for rebound, I like to run my shocks with less rebound.
2. Difficult to answer this as I don't know the traction on your track.
Most of the time now I not go thicker then 600W with very soft spring like HPI Blue.
3.I can't tell you the differents between 2 and 3 holes, what I do know is that 3 holes always works better then 2 holes!

- Luis C
Thanks!
Changing diapers is getting faster now!

- Eirik
Your comment makes a lot of sense.
However we never use any foam to increase rebound on big events. We always feel zero rebound has most traction.
The track you tested this is flat or bumpy?

- Ciro
In Apeldoorn (ETS 2009) I used 0.5mm and 0.5mm suspension spacers.

- Kiloolli
Thanks!
Will post basic set-up later this week.

- Enrico
Thanks! Same to you! ( little late)

- Stefan
I think the smokem chassis is good on high grip track but not at all tracks.
Further I should need more info about surface, tyres and set-up to know why the rear is loose?

- asier
Normally on low grip tracks first find the best tyre/additive combination.
What you can try is to make more flex in the car, like cut the topdeck in the centerline. Shocks more vertical also helps with slightly softer oil and spring.

Set-ups 417 coming soon!!

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Old 01-12-2011, 08:13 PM   #1373
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what is it i have to cut? is it the same thing i have to do on the 417? thanks see you at TITC
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Old 01-12-2011, 11:34 PM   #1374
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Hi Jilles! See you at TITC! How's the testing at RC City going? Sent you a message the other day as well but will ask here too ... what body would you suggest for RC City? Is the LTC-R the body of choice? Also, what compound works best? Hope you can help us out with tire prep ... getting there really late on the 23rd as mentioned so will have very limited practice time
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Old 01-13-2011, 11:55 AM   #1375
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Your comment makes a lot of sense.
However we never use any foam to increase rebound on big events. We always feel zero rebound has most traction.
The track you tested this is flat or bumpy?

Jilles
Jilles,,
I still have close to zero rebound with the foam on top of the bladder, it is just supporting the bladder.
It takes a litlle more time to make them perfect, but no big deal really.
Very important that you cut them to 3mm.

The track is normal, small bumps here and there, medium to high traction.

You really should give it a try, I am sure you will like the cornerspeed it generates. And, check out your laptimes ;o)

Later mate,
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Old 01-13-2011, 01:36 PM   #1376
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It takes a litlle more time to make them perfect, but no big deal really.
Very important that you cut them to 3mm.
Try the new xray foams, they are about that height
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Old 01-13-2011, 03:07 PM   #1377
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Hey Jilles: Happy new year and all the best in 2011. First I'd like to know if you've driven the new TRF 417 sedan yet and what makes it better and or different than the TRF 416 series? Second do you plan on doing any electric off road racing with the ifmar off road electric worlds coming in 2011? thanks for the info
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Old 01-13-2011, 05:35 PM   #1378
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Hi Jilles,

For controlling roll, what's the difference between spacers under the suspension blocks versus anti-roll bars?

Thanks in advance.
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Old 01-14-2011, 08:56 AM   #1379
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I use 1000W oil in the gear diff.
JIlles
Hello Jilles,

I am new with the geardiffs,
first I build it with 2000 oil which came along with it.
But when I was ready it felt too greasy.
So I filled it with shock oil.
For my son and me it works perfectly.
What could/will happen when the oil is too thin?
Did you try that yet?

Are you a DAD now? (girl? boy? twins?)

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Old 01-17-2011, 11:09 AM   #1380
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Hello Jilles,

Gefeliciteerd met de baby!

You might come to ets Apeldoorn This year?

Thanks already for plating THE trf 417 setups.

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