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Old 10-22-2010, 01:43 AM   #1321
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now, are you in bangkok thailand ?

at rcaddict what oil you using with geardiff ? spring set ? and shock oil ? for stock racing.

very thanks.
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Old 10-24-2010, 04:42 AM   #1322
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Yes, I'm in Bangkok now.
I use 1000W oil in the gear diff. Shock oil 600 front and 500 rear for 11.5T stock racing. Springs HB blue

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Old 10-25-2010, 03:04 AM   #1323
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Good to hear you like the settings.
I have starting to use slightly lighter oil here in Thailand, suggestion from Atsushi and with little harder swaybars it works very well.

- Kiloolli
I see your set-up and looks not bad. You can try little lighter oil, 450.
I also see you use geardiff front and rear. I suggest spool if you want more steering in short corners.

-srw_g
At the worlds we all use 1000W oil. At all other races we use 1000W as well.
We tested harder but performance is worse. If you go lighter the diff leak little bit so 1000W is still best compromise.

- Gerry
That is amazing! Well done! I quess you guys had really good track condition or we will see some Filipino's at the next Worlds in the A-main!!
Really a shame I can't come next month, I'm sure it will be a nice race!
Keep in touch!

- charl mac
All parts of the 417 will fit on the new Lipo chassis. You might want to have the 19T pulli, the motormount and the new steering bridge.
But I'm sure you will keep up with the competition with your current 416X!!

Jilles
Thanks Jilles

Thats great news and thats what I was thinking 19t pully, motor mount, and s/ bridge. You don't maybe know what the part no. needed for these items to work in the x.

What are the difference in the shock towers.

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Old 10-25-2010, 04:08 AM   #1324
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- Wayne
Good to hear you like the settings.
I have starting to use slightly lighter oil here in Thailand, suggestion from Atsushi and with little harder swaybars it works very well.

- Kiloolli
I see your set-up and looks not bad. You can try little lighter oil, 450.
I also see you use geardiff front and rear. I suggest spool if you want more steering in short corners.

-srw_g
At the worlds we all use 1000W oil. At all other races we use 1000W as well.
We tested harder but performance is worse. If you go lighter the diff leak little bit so 1000W is still best compromise.

- Gerry
That is amazing! Well done! I quess you guys had really good track condition or we will see some Filipino's at the next Worlds in the A-main!!
Really a shame I can't come next month, I'm sure it will be a nice race!
Keep in touch!

- charl mac
All parts of the 417 will fit on the new Lipo chassis. You might want to have the 19T pulli, the motormount and the new steering bridge.
But I'm sure you will keep up with the competition with your current 416X!!

Jilles
Thanks, Jilles

Still have some questions about diff:

1. How much oil to fill? Fully fill or partial fill? (please help check the attachment)

2. What brand of the diff oil are you using?

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Old 10-25-2010, 04:26 AM   #1325
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Follow the instructions

Fill it too high and you will most likely blow the seals .

A bit like a rear diff in a real car. I dont think that is completely filled either
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Old 10-25-2010, 04:45 AM   #1326
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Here's a link to a video clip on how to assemble and fill a gear diff by Spec-R:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k1PfllEfx3A
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Old 10-25-2010, 07:56 AM   #1327
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Thank you Jilles for joining us at the race we learned a lot from you. Looking forward to the next time you can join us in Manila.
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Old 10-25-2010, 03:45 PM   #1328
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Yes, I'm in Bangkok now.
I use 1000W oil in the gear diff. Shock oil 600 front and 500 rear for 11.5T stock racing. Springs HB blue

JIlles
Jilles, the diff oil and shock oil are only 400wt difference?
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Old 11-02-2010, 06:46 AM   #1329
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Default lipo position

what is the best place to fit the lipo battery on a 416,shift it to the right having it hanging a bit outside the chassis?
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Old 11-02-2010, 07:04 AM   #1330
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Hi Jilles

Don't know if this has been asked before but I always have wondered what pro drivers do during normal working hours!

Do you guys have normal 9 - 5 jobs and do the RC thing on the side or is this your job? If so what are you doing? testing, researching, producing....etc.?
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Old 11-02-2010, 10:16 PM   #1331
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- charl mac
Don't know the part numbers.
I'm not sure what is different in the shocktowers.
Prior to the Worlds we have played with higher shock position and also holes in between the regular shock positions. Not sure what the 417 will have

- srw_g
Just fill it almost to the top. When you close it, the oil must not go out, when you put the screws in, then the oil slightly goes out.
I have used different brands, such as Kyosho, Shepherd and Muchmore, can't feel the difference.

- greg
Race was nice and cool video's. The 13.5T doesn't look so slow to me!
Can't make it to the race this month, hopefully some other race next year!

-guinnes.s
I run my 416X with the flip belts ( front belt on the right side ).
The battery is normally about 3mm away from the belt.
This balance is good for 1350gr min weight and 1400gr.
Additional weight I normally put in the center of the chassis between Lipo and electronics.

- mr Lee
Some pro drivers also work at RC company. In my case I not work inside a factory but only at the race track. In the morning I go to the track and test all kind of things, prepare for next race and give any help to other drivers.
I go to the track 5 days a week and really sometimes from 9 - 5!
I also make reports about races, testing results and send it to the companies I race for. Any new things, suggestions I also forward directly to the factories.

Jilles
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Old 11-03-2010, 04:33 AM   #1332
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Thanks for the reply Jilles!

Keep up the good work!




.....I could really do with a job like that
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Old 11-04-2010, 04:29 AM   #1333
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- charl mac
Don't know the part numbers.
I'm not sure what is different in the shocktowers.
Prior to the Worlds we have played with higher shock position and also holes in between the regular shock positions. Not sure what the 417 will have

- srw_g
Just fill it almost to the top. When you close it, the oil must not go out, when you put the screws in, then the oil slightly goes out.
I have used different brands, such as Kyosho, Shepherd and Muchmore, can't feel the difference.

- greg
Race was nice and cool video's. The 13.5T doesn't look so slow to me!
Can't make it to the race this month, hopefully some other race next year!

-guinnes.s
I run my 416X with the flip belts ( front belt on the right side ).
The battery is normally about 3mm away from the belt.
This balance is good for 1350gr min weight and 1400gr.
Additional weight I normally put in the center of the chassis between Lipo and electronics.

- mr Lee
Some pro drivers also work at RC company. In my case I not work inside a factory but only at the race track. In the morning I go to the track and test all kind of things, prepare for next race and give any help to other drivers.
I go to the track 5 days a week and really sometimes from 9 - 5!
I also make reports about races, testing results and send it to the companies I race for. Any new things, suggestions I also forward directly to the factories.

Jilles
thanks for the reply
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Old 11-04-2010, 11:44 AM   #1334
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Don't know the part numbers.
I'm not sure what is different in the shocktowers.
Prior to the Worlds we have played with higher shock position and also holes in between the regular shock positions. Not sure what the 417 will have

- srw_g
Just fill it almost to the top. When you close it, the oil must not go out, when you put the screws in, then the oil slightly goes out.
I have used different brands, such as Kyosho, Shepherd and Muchmore, can't feel the difference.

- greg
Race was nice and cool video's. The 13.5T doesn't look so slow to me!
Can't make it to the race this month, hopefully some other race next year!

-guinnes.s
I run my 416X with the flip belts ( front belt on the right side ).
The battery is normally about 3mm away from the belt.
This balance is good for 1350gr min weight and 1400gr.
Additional weight I normally put in the center of the chassis between Lipo and electronics.

- mr Lee
Some pro drivers also work at RC company. In my case I not work inside a factory but only at the race track. In the morning I go to the track and test all kind of things, prepare for next race and give any help to other drivers.
I go to the track 5 days a week and really sometimes from 9 - 5!
I also make reports about races, testing results and send it to the companies I race for. Any new things, suggestions I also forward directly to the factories.

Jilles
Thanks for the reply Jilles. Very useful information
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Old 11-07-2010, 08:42 AM   #1335
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Hi Jilles, what method do you use to prep ur tires?

I run asphalt and have got paragon FX-II but just dont seem to have success with it. What I usually do is apply it 10mins b4 a run. I will coat the full width of the tires. However, I seem to have less grip at the start of the run eventhough i wipe of the remains?? (It seems to be good at the 2min mark though)

I suspect there is sth wrong with my prep method rather than the additives. could u share ur thoughts? Thanks!
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