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Old 07-28-2010, 10:14 AM   #1246
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Hi Jilles,

Just Joking.

I'm already looking for a new set. Hope I can work my way up to local races.... (dreaming.. hehe)
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its at all track conditions,we filled the shocks new,changed diff-outdrives and speedo settings,chassis from kit to exotek.springs blue/white or yellow/yellow.only screw from topdeck to steering is out.
tracks we tested are bamberg,tuerkheim,singen,greuthof and korntal.
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its at all track conditions,we filled the shocks new,changed diff-outdrives and speedo settings,chassis from kit to exotek.springs blue/white or yellow/yellow.only screw from topdeck to steering is out.
tracks we tested are bamberg,tuerkheim,singen,greuthof and korntal.
I think Jilles needs to know what your current setup is. Meaning front and rear suspension mounts and what, if any, spacers you are using. Shock position/springs/oil. Camber front and rear. Camber link positions...etc. If you can fill out a setup sheet and post it here that would be the best information you can give for him to help.
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its at all track conditions,we filled the shocks new,changed diff-outdrives and speedo settings,chassis from kit to exotek.springs blue/white or yellow/yellow.only screw from topdeck to steering is out.
tracks we tested are bamberg,tuerkheim,singen,greuthof and korntal.
Put the base setup on your car jilles posted near the start of this thread. It works, trust me
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Old 07-29-2010, 08:39 AM   #1250
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Hi Jilles,

what type of battery do you or guys in team trf use mostly?

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Old 08-04-2010, 03:30 PM   #1251
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Hi Jilles,

do you have any setup tips for andernach?
We have to drive sorex 36r with 13,5t motor.
Which body shall i use?Is tire tweak ok as additive or woul you use something else?

Thanks a lot!Take care!
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what type of battery do you or guys in team trf use mostly?
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Old 08-08-2010, 01:41 PM   #1253
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Hey Jilles

Hope your father gets well soon mate

pass on my wishes when you see him next
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Mr Groskamp..mind if i called you Jilles? its easier that way !
I have a question about TRF shocks. i read somewhere you are talking about rebound. By that you mean when you push the shocks in (withouth spring), they come out by themselves? I also heard u do not put in the orange urethane foam bushing on top. i find the TRF shocks odd. with 30wt oil 2 hole piston, when pushed in, the shock shaft comes back out very fast. When i use 60wt oil 2 hole piston also, shaft pushed in, it comes out slower. why is this? also is it normal for it to come out so far back to full extension?
is it true by removing the orange urethane bushing in the shock top chamber, i will get more traction? what is the actual purpose of the urethane bushing?
if you recomend to drill a small hole on the top plastic, is 1mm size enough? i hope you can help me with this...Thank you !
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another question Jilles, when you said that hard springs overheat the tyres, then wouldnt soft springs cause too much body roll? to me 14lb to 18lb is very low. do you need to use thick antiroll bars with such soft springs?
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have a look here this is part 1 of 5 and i think it cover most of your ?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sliCxsIZ3v4
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Old 08-29-2010, 01:10 AM   #1257
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Thanks! Warm-up was pretty good.
This week we will go again for final tests in Germany.

- Francisco,
Most of the time the lightweight works better then regular weight.
However I agree that the wing is too soft, therefor I run a regular weight wing most of the time.

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I can imagine that on a bumpy parking lot you also crash sometimes.
When you crash most of the time the spoolcup is damaged.
I don't have a solution for this.

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I don't know exactly the set-up, but I didn't run any bladder in the shock.
Maybe I write it wrong on the set-up sheet.
99% of the time I run my shocks without rebound, therefor ofcourse without any shims,foams or o-rings on top of the bladder.
I ran 700 because this thick oil works better on a hot surface. It has better balance and it doesn't overheat the tyres. In the evening I could run softer like 550.

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M3 dreamin , If you buy yourself the TA05 or tb03 spool you can use those steel out drives on your 416 spool, they are a lot more Robust.
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Hello Jilles

do you know if this will work on a 416 worlds ed. and if not what would i need to get to make it work
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Hi Jilles,

Sorry if this question has been asked before, but will there be a TRF 417 coming out soon with the lipo chassis, diff gear etc?

Thanks
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Hi Jilles,

Being driven absolutely nuts by an issue I am having with my 416X. At the start of the race, the car is great, as the race goes on, the car gets worse and worse.

Turn a corner and the rear of the car steps out, and the car really starts to oversteer heavily, and at times traction roll. It costs me up to 1/2 a second a lap as i have to back off to get thru corners and widen my apexes to keep the car as straight and stable as I can.

It had me confused, as a few days before at a weekend event (we race on Wednesday nights, indoors) the car was great, and I hadn't adjusted it between the weekend and Wednesday.

I have tried many different setup ideas and nothing is solving the problem. Out of curiosity i measured my tyre temps when i pulled the car off the track. The fronts were 10deg (c) warmer then the rears, i checked and my dad was also having the same issue. His rear tyres were also cooler then his fronts.

We race on carpet so we use tyre warmers before the race. It seems to be that as the rear tyres cool they are loosing their grip and the fronts are taking over. Which makes sense as to why the car was so good during the weekend event, it was warmer conditions and tyre temps stayed even.

How can I get around this? Is there a way to keep more heat in the rear tyres so it doesn't go off so damn much.

Also took notice that my front tyres wear a lot fast then my rears do.
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