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Old 02-06-2002, 06:56 PM   #16
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Mike F, I don't know the specifics of the illegal mod. I know the F1 TCS national champions haven't used that trick, they only used the water dipping trick. It's not TCS legal to do the other one anyway..
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Old 02-06-2002, 07:38 PM   #17
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i have heard that you can somehow twist the relationship between the arms stack and the comm, i have not tried it, which direction would you rotate the comm to increase timing?
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Old 02-07-2002, 07:33 AM   #18
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I never had problems making run time with 1400s. The new Trinity packs are only about $20.

I've also heard about twisting the armature stack to increase timing, however, I haven't tried it. It irritates me when it's obvious that someone has cheated.
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I've also heard about twisting the armature stack to increase timing, however, I haven't tried it. It irritates me when it's obvious that someone has cheated.
coolrcdad - It frustrates me as well. Had it not been for those guys with tweaked motors I would of won that race, both of them but oh well no need over spilled milk. I honestly think that Tamiya should hand out 540 motors in F-1, TL01 and MINI. If they motors are tweaked wrong they wont be able to race and you know who the cheaters are.
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Mike F, Tamiya DOES hand out motors. I know for the nationals they actually take back the motors at the end of the day, then give them back to you the next day of racing.
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Mike F, Tamiya DOES hand out motors. I know for the nationals they actually take back the motors at the end of the day, then give them back to you the next day of racing.
I'm talking about at every TCS event, that's where the cheating is happening, but it's good to know that they pass them out at that nationals
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It'd get expensive if they did hand outs at every single race. After all, the race is free... and they give out prizes to the winner. I can't think of a solution to the cheating problem though. But I wouldn't cheat because others cheat. I'd rather lose legitimately than win illegitimately.. then again, I'm used to losing
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I'd rather lose legitimately than win illegitimately.. then again, I'm used to losing
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I happen to know for a fact that the past TCS national winners did not dip their motors. There isn't really any tricks for the new motor. As for cheating at TCS I don't think it happens. Some Johnson motors are just faster than others. There is a secret to find the fast motors.
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Fangio, which national champion are you talking about? Also, what's the trick?
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well Dave Beale doesn't water, chen wha chen the past winner didn't water dip. I know when Dave Jun races F1 with us he doesn't water dip, niether does the head of Tamiyas customer service. The trick is to grab the output shaft and spin it while holding it. The faster motors will not have big lugs, instead a lot of little ones. Its not very accurate because motors free up once they are broken in but at least you don't buy a dog at the store.
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Interesting, however, most of don't have the luxury of spin testing a bunch of motors to find the best one.
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Fangio, are you sure about that??? That doesn't make sense! Maybe you are thinking of the black can motor? Water dipping with the silver can is GOOD!
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with the old johnsons it worked with the new ones it doesn't. It may help to brake in the brushes, but my friend who has a dyno has water dipped and dynoed and said nothing happend.
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Can good 1400s last 5 mins with a regular stock motor, like a P2K? (On a 2wd car)
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