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Old 03-29-2009, 11:33 AM   #1
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Default 17.5 BRUSHLESS QUESTION?

I am in the market for a new 17.5 for stock 1/12th scale and was wondering if I should go with the old standby novak ss or does anyone have any other recommendations?Thanks you.Also are most people adjusting the timing or running in stock form?
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Personally, I think that you should stick with the Novak SS Pro 17.5 .......
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Old 03-29-2009, 12:56 PM   #3
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I use the same motor, and it's been great last session. No timing, no problems. But If you feel like testing the waters with another motor, go ahead. You'll get a grip on what the best motors are.
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Go with the Novak-best quality in the world! Don
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Old 03-29-2009, 06:59 PM   #5
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the problem with the novak is the non-removable sensor harness.
wont ever buy another novak motor till we see ballistic based spec motors

also finding a rotor with similar number on poles pole if really tuff. making it harder to find a good one.

but any of the 17.5s can be fast just got to get a good one. and the orions and tekins are the easiest to get good ones
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I really like the Losi 17.5. Never had a issue with it, and its just as quick as most of the motors I've ran in the past.
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Old 03-29-2009, 07:16 PM   #7
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I prefer the LRP X-11 Stock Spec motors. I use the 17.5 in Stock 1/12, 13.5 in WGT, and 10.5 in 1/12 too.

As for power, I have found these to be fairly consistent, durable, easy to disassemble for cleaning/inspection, and power slightly better than Novak's. Another plus over Novak, as mentioned, is the removable sensor harness, which is really great when you get a sensor wire pinched or accidentally pulled or cut. The motors are super clean and tidy inside which shows good assembly, unlike the Losi motors which look like they are super corroded inside brand new.

The number of options are great with these motors. The Thin Cooling Plate is great to help center the brushless motors in Pan Cars. They have a 12.3, 12.5, and 13.0mm Rotor options, 12.3mm comes stock. They have ceramic bearing options, cooling fins for the end-bell, etc.... Check them out.
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I've been running Novak forever and really love the products and service, but as mentioned any of them can be fast with the right setup. As to timming that depends on what esc your using and your radio settings.
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I say leave the Novak in the box and find a Trinity (Duo based not Pulse based) or the Tekin 17.5. I have both and I am much happier with them than I was with the Novaks I ran in the past. I really like the super easy to adjust timing and the fact that you can gear them deeper and they still stay well with in the safe temp range. These motors stay on average 25 degrees cooler than the Novaks I ran with the same gearing in the same car. I have found it nearly impossible to over heat these motors. The removable sensor wire is also a plus.
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What is your final drive ratio on a touring car do you guys run with your 17.5?
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trinity duo-based 17.5T (and 13.5T) motors were the most popular at this years ROAR Carpet Nationals
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In the RCGT class we are running 3.5-4.2ish depending on how tight the track is.
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I am in the market for a new 17.5 for stock 1/12th scale and was wondering if I should go with the old standby novak ss or does anyone have any other recommendations?Thanks you.Also are most people adjusting the timing or running in stock form?
This is a Duo based motor. You won't be disappointed.

http://express-motorsports.net/catal...x.php?cPath=22
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In the RCGT class we are running 3.5-4.2ish depending on how tight the track is.
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I was talking to a local fast racer testing as many 17.5 as he could get his hands on and he recommends the Orion but with rotor kit but it doubles the price, would the duo be better?
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