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Old 07-01-2009, 08:22 AM   #196
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Old 07-01-2009, 09:34 AM   #197
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here are the pictures. Thanks for sending them Billy
My tires have worn this way around the perimeter as well. I have no clue why my tires have worn this way.
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Old 07-01-2009, 10:51 AM   #198
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I find they wear wierd if you don't grind the seam down......But they are just as fast time wise
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Old 07-01-2009, 11:02 AM   #199
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Yes, I've noticed my fronts seemed to have peeled away from the center seam as in the photos too. I did not grind the seam down before I ran them.

I also noticed the roughed up outer edges as well. This was all after a single 5-min run in practice with no additive. I was kinda freaked, but others told me it would be fine.

27T, asphalt parking lot, soda preped, super tight track, -1.5* camber...

I was having a terrible time driving though which I think was attributed to a bad rear wheel bearing I had missed, and front diff that worked loose. Hopefully things get much better next time out.

I would really like to give the buggy grip & tire tweak a try. The fast guys at our track use Sorex 36R (non premount) and Corrally Jack-the-gripper sauce.
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Old 07-01-2009, 11:12 AM   #200
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Is it just the front tires wearing like that or both front and rear?
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Old 07-01-2009, 11:16 AM   #201
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My experience has been all 4 tires.
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Old 07-01-2009, 04:47 PM   #202
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Does Trinity's Buggy Grip 2 work as well as the original? I was thinking about placing an order, but wanted to check with others first...

Also, what's the best way to apply Buggy Grip and Tire Tweak. I'm used to sauces with applicators in the cans like FX2 and Jack, but I see the Trinity products don't have them...
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Any update on the black rims Billy?
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Old 07-24-2009, 09:34 AM   #205
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Any update on the black rims Billy?
Yes, I would like to know as well. Evil black rims are the wave of the future...
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I will check with Jac, I think they will be in next week. Tire tweek for 30 minutes then buggy grip for 15 to 20 minutes.

If you use paragon only put on all 4 tires than go wipe off.

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Yep! That's been my current experience between the two. Scotty nailed it!

Last time I raced at NorCal, the one set of SJR 36's I have been using were on their 13-14 run (5-6 min each). After my last practice day, they are up to 17-18 runs. I finally bought a second set; but, may well get through my next practice before changing them...

Kudos to Billy B for making this tire/wheel/insert combo happen. A big boost to on-road.

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Not sure what I'm missing here. I've been running the Speedmind Sorex 36's at a med grip track and just changed over to the SJR's this week. We've been running Buggy grip to clean then 1/2 hr+ tweak with good results on the speedminds. After changing to the SJR's from a 6 run spedmind I clearly lost grip. I had prepped them by sanding the bead down on a drill press w 150 grit prior. Finally when the track temp hit 130 (outside temp 92) and 2/3 the way thru run 2 they started to stick...kinda the opposite of many other tires on this track.

Any suggestions to resolve would be appreciated...I've got 4 sets so I need to get this figured out. Should I be dropping the camber from 2 to 1?? That seems pretty odd to me.
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Not sure what I'm missing here. I've been running the Speedmind Sorex 36's at a med grip track and just changed over to the SJR's this week. We've been running Buggy grip to clean then 1/2 hr+ tweak with good results on the speedminds. After changing to the SJR's from a 6 run spedmind I clearly lost grip. I had prepped them by sanding the bead down on a drill press w 150 grit prior. Finally when the track temp hit 130 (outside temp 92) and 2/3 the way thru run 2 they started to stick...kinda the opposite of many other tires on this track.

Any suggestions to resolve would be appreciated...I've got 4 sets so I need to get this figured out. Should I be dropping the camber from 2 to 1?? That seems pretty odd to me.
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I sanded my very first set of SJR 36's and was initially wondering about my first results. Was told to just break them in for a few runs. They are not fast for the first few runs until you wear them in...I guess we are talking heat cycles here.

I use Tire Tweak for about 15-20 minutes, wipe it off and THEN quickly clean with Buggy Grip. They should be good to go. This procedure is per Billy Bowerman of SpeedWorld.

I am using the SJR 36s all the time. Including our Thursday night racing at NorCal because the traction goes sky high after the sun goes down. Have never been able to get a hold of any 28s or 32s. Don't seem to need them for California.

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I sanded my very first set of SJR 36's and was initially wondering about my first results. Was told to just break them in for a few runs. They are not fast for the first few runs until you wear them in...I guess we are talking heat cycles here.

I use Tire Tweak for about 15-20 minutes, wipe it off and THEN quickly clean with Buggy Grip. They should be good to go. This procedure is per Billy Bowerman of SpeedWorld.

I am using the SJR 36s all the time. Including our Thursday night racing at NorCal because the traction goes sky high after the sun goes down. Have never been able to get a hold of any 28s or 32s. Don't seem to need them for California.

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Excellent...thanks Bill. Guess thats right where I'm at run 2 in mod and 2/3 the way they started to feel good. I'll try the reverse tweak method without sanding. So the Buggy grip your wiping off and basically getting residue off tires before run?

If you wanted best scenario for mains... you'd make 2 runs then run 3 for mains then? Kinda a different stratagy...but doable if they last longer.
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Excellent...thanks Bill. Guess thats right where I'm at run 2 in mod and 2/3 the way they started to feel good. I'll try the reverse tweak method without sanding. So the Buggy grip your wiping off and basically getting residue off tires before run?

If you wanted best scenario for mains... you'd make 2 runs then run 3 for mains then? Kinda a different stratagy...but doable if they last longer.
I am only on my second set of SJR36's. These probably have another 20 runs on them. Not sure when I will need to change them...

If you don't like them, just send em to me...Probably can give you about 20-30 used sets of Jaco Blues that I have trashed at NorCal for them... j/k
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