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Old 03-19-2004, 01:23 AM   #211
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Well there are 3 Binary Stock motors now

Out law - 4 mag epoxy balance

BRCA - 4 mag drill balance

Roar - monster can (2 mag) with drill arm

The 2 drill arms are the arm from the outlaw, but drill balanced. So its basicly a monster with 4 less laminations
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Old 04-26-2004, 04:08 PM   #212
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Well, I seem to be a little late on this Binary thing, but I thought I'd post my experience.

IT'S FAST!!! (Or my driving just got a lot better ).

I got the standard, non dyno tuned version and did all the recommended cleaning, cutting, and shimming. Unfortunately, I WAS having problems with my lathe, and ended up putting a giant gash in the comm which required me cutting it down to .286 before running it for the first time.

I also had a set of used, almost dead Birdman biased brushes that I thought I'd give a shot so I threw them in - chipped, and very used with some new Trinity Red springs.

At first, I dropped 3 teeth on my pinion following some of the advice I'd read on this thread and it was a DOG!!!! Very, very, slow.

When I went back to the same pinion (35T) that I had been running on my Monster stock, the motor was VERY fast. Whereas before, I had not been able to turn a sub 15 second lap, now, I had several 14.7 - 14.9's with a couple 14.6 and 14.5's.

Now there's a good possibility my driving just improved, as well as a possiblity that I'm just REALLY working the Binary and significantly decreasing it's lifespan (I have no temp gun).

With that said, I'm a HUGE fan of this motor.
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Old 04-26-2004, 08:58 PM   #213
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no torque, nothing, zippo, nadda, if your track is any bit on the tighter side, any bit, run the monster, if it truly is open, then run the epic, but first go get your magnets zapped.
I run the Binary on a very short track. About 9 second laps,in my 1/12. If you miss on the gearing your up a creek without a paddle. If it's geared right, the only thing that will catch you is another binary or a pipe

I have 3 with all sorts of different brush, spring combo's, and shunt location. None of my motors perform the same with the same brushes or springs.

thats my .02
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Old 01-26-2005, 01:35 PM   #214
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instead of making a new thread i thought id just bump this one.

I just fried my epic binary2 stock.

i thought i was having problems with my esc (a fairly old GM v3r) where i couldnt get power to the motor. i could control the servo, so i was a little baffled as all my connections were fine. so i left the esc on and started fiddling with connections, trying my radio from time to time. I started to hear a little sizzle and promptly disconnected my batteries and shut off the esc. to my dismay a nice smoke trail was coming out of the motor. It had siezed and it was all i could do to break it free.

i had never ran the motor before trying to test it just now. guess im buying new elecs
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Old 01-27-2005, 09:33 PM   #215
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Been messing around with this motor for a while. On the Binary2, I'm geared at 8.23 final drive on a mid-sized flowing track. Has anyone else geared this high? Also, has anyone tried the ROAR Binary? The one that's the Binary arm in a Monster can. Would you gear this the same as a Monster? I heard it just has a little more RPM.
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Old 01-27-2005, 09:37 PM   #216
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Is there a way I get Epic to have more torgue and less Rpm? I'm using it a T4.
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Were can get a Putman motor?
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yodace- the Binary is designed to be a RPM motor, so you won't get much torque out of it, a Monster or P2K2 would be more suitable. Putnam's website is http://www.putnampropulsion.com
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