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Old 03-18-2009, 07:15 PM   #1
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Hey guys, I'm fairly new to the whole rc thing and I have a chance to pick up a Associated 12l3 1/12 scale roller for a nice price, I'm just curious if it is still a competitive chassis for 1/12 scale racing. I'm basically a beginner but I'm a competitive person who likes to have the best, I'm the type that only likes to buy something once and let it grow with my experience not the other way around where I grow out of a car with my experience.

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1/12 cars haven't changed much in the last few years. Brushless pods, and soon to be lipo specific chassis', but not much else.

Parts availability may be an issue though and despite a good purchase price, it means nothing if you can't get parts. If you buy something current, parts are a non-issue.
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Old 03-18-2009, 07:57 PM   #3
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Thanks for the info!! Thats what I was thinking also. As far as parts go, The 12l3 is an old car and the parts likely would not be readily available. The track I run at most guys run CRC's or the 12l5, the hobby shop has plenty of CRC parts and 12l5 parts but hardly any l4 or l3 parts.
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I'm running a 12L3 for something like 6 months and the car is nice for what I do with, that's mean practice. I enter the class with this car, and want to develop driving skill with it, no real need for the ultimate new toy.
The rear axle is from CRC to get rid of the L3 one, the screw mounting for the left hub upset me from day one. This is the only major change done otherwise, it's stock. I added some CRC Shims, some Jacos, 1 set of Old School Jaco and some Prisms.

The car is strong, as other 1/12 I guess. As it's an old car, there is some issues with loose screw and bolt from times to times, I wrench in between runs; including on some plastic parts, mainly body post. I give hard time to the car as I run 15-20 min, so obviously, fasteners came loose at the end. Some new bolts can partly fix this issue, new plastic parts solving the rest.

Regarding broken parts, none until now, not even a T-bar, even the car suufering my poor driving skill, hitting kerbs, flying with to close of the apex. The pod bearing must be changed on a regular basis, I reach there limit twice as one of the pair blows during a run.

You sure already know this point but if you break something, you can change it for a CRC parts at least plastic one, only CF parts will really be a matter if they fail.

Here you will get some details, basic stuff for long time experienced runners, maybe useful for newbie
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Hey guys, I'm fairly new to the whole rc thing and I have a chance to pick up a Associated 12l3 1/12 scale roller for a nice price, I'm just curious if it is still a competitive chassis for 1/12 scale racing. I'm basically a beginner but I'm a competitive person who likes to have the best, I'm the type that only likes to buy something once and let it grow with my experience not the other way around where I grow out of a car with my experience.
Hard to really answer your question without knowing the level of competition at your track. But to be sure it can still be competitive with the right skills and proper setup. The only parts that will be hard to find are the main chassis plates, everything else is avalible by mail order if not at your lhs.

Having said that I'd recomend that you pick up a newer ride that your lhs supports, that way parts will not be an issue and your be able to get up to speed faster by getting setup help/tips from other racers.
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Hey guys, I'm fairly new to the whole rc thing and I have a chance to pick up a Associated 12l3 1/12 scale roller for a nice price, I'm just curious if it is still a competitive chassis for 1/12 scale racing. I'm basically a beginner but I'm a competitive person who likes to have the best, I'm the type that only likes to buy something once and let it grow with my experience not the other way around where I grow out of a car with my experience.
If you're new to RC as you say, and even newer to racing, chances are it's not going to matter what car you have. You're a beginner, a rookie driver, and you'll spend as much time crashing as racing. Would you trust a Testarossa in the hands of a kid fresh out of driver's ed? Same deal.
The 12L is a perfectly good first-timer car, and will allow you to progress through your first season without ruining a higher dollar car while allowing you to get your feet wet on the track while saving a few dollars.
Worst thing a new racer can do is being obsessed with what they're driving instead of being obsessed learning to drive.

Good luck and keep it fun.
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Not looking to threadjack JCBoof's thread but I am also new to 12 scale and have a 12 L3. I was wondering if the L4 chassis would be a direct bolt on.
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