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Old 03-11-2009, 10:38 PM   #1
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Default TC3 VTA Setup or Rubber Tire on Carpet

Someone else has got to be running a TC3 in VTA??? If so, what setup are you using? Ive looked on the associated website and cant really find the info I am looking for. Thanks.
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Old 03-12-2009, 06:34 AM   #2
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My tc3 is set up as follows.

Blue shock springs all in front and left rear
Silver on right rear
All shocks in the second from inside hole on top and the outer hole on arms
30 wt shock oil all around
2 degree blocks in rear
0 degrees toe in the front
droop screws all the way out
no sway bar front or rear
TQ tire traction compound in the blue can for rubber

I use a GTB with the Tekin 17.5 and this setup works well for our short track. The thing I have noticed most with this car on any track is it likes to be setup soft in the front and very soft in the rear. When I have tried running stiff it looses traction with those vta tires.
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Old 03-12-2009, 11:03 AM   #3
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I would suggest starting with the stock setup in the back of the owners manual. Some changes I made were blue springs in the rear and 40 wt shock oil.
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Old 03-12-2009, 12:38 PM   #4
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thanks guys, keep them coming. I am going through my car this week and putting everything basically back to stock except for the one way in the front.
Then I need to find some test and tune time at the track.
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Default TC3 VTA set-up

Mach 51, check out the set-up sheets on the Associated website. Alan Leighton's from 1999 is a good start.

I run 40 wt shock oil, front sway bar, front droop at 6, rear droop at 4, 8 mm ride height, zero caster, 2 degrees kick-up, STD Ackerman, -1 degree camber front / rear, 1 degree front toe out, Blue springs in front, Green in rear & 4 cell battery at rear of tray.

FWIW this works for me but I am very new at RC racing.
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my setup might be off a lil compared to most....

FRONT

2 deg caster

7.5 ride height

rear shock tower...outside hole...inside top hole ball stud

gold springs

25wt oil

#2 pistons

everything set to zero...toe-in,out,camber,.. ect

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6.5 ride height

3 degree toe in

wheel adj...long

#2 pistons

20 wt oil

shock tower.....inside hole...inside top hole ball stud

green springs

novak 21.5 gtb...76/45...4.2222 fdr

orion 3600

Ragu tire sauce...all rear ....half front

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thanks guys, keep them coming. I am going through my car this week and putting everything basically back to stock except for the one way in the front.
Then I need to find some test and tune time at the track.
Is anyone else running a one way up front? What is the benefit to having one? What is/are the part(s)# or link to this?

Thanks
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Old 03-17-2009, 07:37 PM   #8
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Good thread. I have been racing a TC3 Late Model on dirt oval for a couple of years and I just put together another TC3 for VTA. Since I have no experience, I only have observations and both are about tires. The spec tires are a hard compound with a soft insert, so tire compliance appears to be an issue. (I race karts as well and tire pressure is your biggest tuning tool.) A softer suspension setting makes tire compliance less of an issue. Does anyone else have ideas about the stiffness/flexibility of the spec tires?

Also, the tires seem to have a bit of built-in camber -- they appear to be a smaller diameter on the outside than on the inside. I notice that somebody runs 0 degrees camber and almost nobody runs more than -1 degree. Does anybody else notice this?

I'm heading out to practice tomorrow (medium bite carpet) and will post any brilliant discoveries afterwards.
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Does anyone know who still carries the blue trinity bumpers for the TC3?
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Tried both diff and one-way in front. One-way lets you rotate the car into tight corners much more easily. I think it's overall easier to drive with a one-way. I have battled a loose condition and have cured it by increasing the weight of the front shock oil. I'm up to 60wt. I laid the rear shocks down and that has increased the grip at the back. Car now pushes a little, but is controllable with the throttle (snap off the throttle to rotate and set the car, get immediately back in to carry speed through the corner). Also believe that the lower the better.
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