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Old 07-26-2010, 05:58 AM
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Originally Posted by CouldbeFaster
Hey, thanks for the quick response....

Indeed, busy busy... Always something to be testing....

Ive ordered a couple more, and ill leave this one well alone this time, apart from changing the oil of course...

I was running mine in 10.5 this weekend just gone.... Like it was on quite a technical out door track and it was great, transformed the car in my opinion... Was able to hug the inside apexs with no issue at all...

Bit more playing to be had me think.

Might have been a little too much for it. I'll be interested to try one up front... Next meeting is at a big open circuit... Im thinking running one up front might help carry some speed round the corners...
I think that on a large flowing track, the spool will still be the way to go, but you're right...still alot of testing to do.
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Old 07-26-2010, 06:45 AM
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Stick the Gear diff in the front and the Ball diff in the rear.....
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Old 07-26-2010, 06:54 AM
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Originally Posted by CouldbeFaster
Im thinking running one up front might help carry some speed round the corners...
Agreed.
Paul L commented that a front spool is best for getting big power (mod) to the ground but for higher winds, a front diff gives you better corner speed.
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Old 07-26-2010, 07:48 AM
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Corner speed is worthless if you cant use whats gained comin OFF the corner. A spool lets you do just that (asphalt). A gear diff can still unload like a ball diff, its not a LSD design... so the gear diffs obvious advantage over a ball diff is durability for low wind use.

Sure you can pack a front gear diff with thick oil to simulate a slipper spool, but in the extreme heat we have had here locally, i can imagine its inconsistent feel by the end of the run.

With that said, i think the diff or spool choice will largely fall on the track layout and track surface condition. Setup is subjective and never perfect, and is always best for what works on the largest, fastest part of the track (that doesnt mean just speed though).

Just remember that environment affects your setup. Otherwise you will spend qualifier after qualifier trying to duplicate something someone else tried in a different region... and get frustrated when it doesnt work.
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Originally Posted by DaveW
Corner speed is worthless if you cant use whats gained comin OFF the corner. A spool lets you do just that (asphalt). A gear diff can still unload like a ball diff, its not a LSD design... so the gear diffs obvious advantage over a ball diff is durability for low wind use.

Sure you can pack a front gear diff with thick oil to simulate a slipper spool, but in the extreme heat we have had here locally, i can imagine its inconsistent feel by the end of the run.

With that said, i think the diff or spool choice will largely fall on the track layout and track surface condition. Setup is subjective and never perfect, and is always best for what works on the largest, fastest part of the track (that doesnt mean just speed though).

Just remember that environment affects your setup. Otherwise you will spend qualifier after qualifier trying to duplicate something someone else tried in a different region... and get frustrated when it doesnt work.
Well said.... a little over my head, but well said. You order a new car yet Dave? You are in the photon thread alot these days
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Old 07-26-2010, 02:11 PM
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guys, have a question...
in LTD Version, rear suspension Arm have 4 hole(2+2)
spare part code suspension arms TC-PMES01, have old Rear Suspension with 3 hole or new rear suspension?
thanks!
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Old 07-26-2010, 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Luppi Stefano
guys, have a question...
in LTD Version, rear suspension Arm have 4 hole(2+2)
spare part code suspension arms TC-PMES01, have old Rear Suspension with 3 hole or new rear suspension?
thanks!
3 holes is old ver. , new ver. is 4 holes !
parts no. is same !
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Old 07-26-2010, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by DaveW
Corner speed is worthless if you cant use whats gained comin OFF the corner. A spool lets you do just that (asphalt). A gear diff can still unload like a ball diff, its not a LSD design... so the gear diffs obvious advantage over a ball diff is durability for low wind use.

Sure you can pack a front gear diff with thick oil to simulate a slipper spool, but in the extreme heat we have had here locally, i can imagine its inconsistent feel by the end of the run.
I run 100% indoors, rubber tire on carpet, I'm working on a setup for the IIC. For asphalt you're right, spool is best in most situations.
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Old 07-26-2010, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by RC MARKET
3 holes is old ver. , new ver. is 4 holes !
parts no. is same !
great Rcmarket!
I think the new production of spare part will have all the four hole...
thanks!!
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Originally Posted by KingKarate757
Well said.... a little over my head, but well said. You order a new car yet Dave? You are in the photon thread alot these days
I like the Photon a lot. It has tunability. It thinks outside the box without trying to redesign the box. I just wish there was a shaft version.
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Originally Posted by pcar951
I run 100% indoors, rubber tire on carpet, I'm working on a setup for the IIC. For asphalt you're right, spool is best in most situations.
So how are you liking the car so far? Im surrounded by Photon's locally, and am SOOO tempted to get one. Anything you DONT like about it yet?
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Originally Posted by DaveW
I like the Photon a lot. It has tunability. It thinks outside the box without trying to redesign the box. I just wish there was a shaft version.
You don't have a Photon but you post on this thread daily? Thats odd to me.
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Originally Posted by L.Fairtrace
You don't have a Photon but you post on this thread daily? Thats odd to me.
You going to get the pics of your car?

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Old 07-26-2010, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by L.Fairtrace
You don't have a Photon but you post on this thread daily? Thats odd to me.
Lets call me a window shopper for a new sled.

My current chassis needs to be retired...
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Originally Posted by DaveW
Lets call me a window shopper for a new sled.

My current chassis needs to be retired...
So buy one already! I've had a Losi Street Weapon, an Associated TC4FT, an Xray T2 and an Xray T2 '007 and now waiting for my Photon to arrive.

Just do it!.
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