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Old 02-03-2010, 07:20 AM
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Originally Posted by Rick Vessell
Congrats to Larry and Jason for the results. The car looks good and drives very well. I only wish I could have done better myself. Still, not finishing dead last in mod with no real practice going in this year was good enough I suppose.

Now I just have to see if I can convince work to send me to Reedy.
You just need more stick time. Rubber carpet TC is a long ways away from foam asphalt nitro! What setup did you end up with?
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Old 02-03-2010, 08:06 AM
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Originally Posted by E.J. Evans
You just need more stick time. Rubber carpet TC is a long ways away from foam asphalt nitro! What setup did you end up with?
I ended up with something of my own. I tried Larry/Schreff's setup first and didn't have enough steering for my liking. I'll see if I can get a sheet and post it up in a few.
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Old 02-03-2010, 10:01 AM
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Originally Posted by The Teacher
"When Larry and I go to races together... it's usually not good for the competition."

....that's so cute! Can't wait to see what you guys do at the Indoor Nats...
This coming from a guy that wont race if the track is more than 30 minutes from his house.

Come up to Horsham and finish in the top 5 in 17.5 and I'll consider going to the nats.

As far as I have checked I have been to Mimi's a dozen or so times in the last couple years and havent seen you north of DE in at least 4.
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Old 02-03-2010, 02:23 PM
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On that new setup sheet there is a missing checkmark: Rear upper outer camber link position.
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Old 02-03-2010, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by adamge
On that new setup sheet there is a missing checkmark: Rear upper outer camber link position.
Inner hole on the rear hub. The stock position.
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Thanks. I'm going to try it tonight, or atleast get as close to it as possible. Who would have imagined I would need the 393 springs. Those are still the Gamma (y) series, right?
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Old 02-03-2010, 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by adamge
Thanks. I'm going to try it tonight, or atleast get as close to it as possible. Who would have imagined I would need the 393 springs. Those are still the Gamma (y) series, right?
Yup, Gamma springs.

Part number: PS-TR15550
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Old 02-03-2010, 08:53 PM
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Alright, good night. I did a couple runs with my existing setup (slightly modified Fairtrace setup to get more steering), then put something close to this one on. The new setup seems to be pretty much exactly the same on lap times, but easier and more predictable to drive.

Differences in my implementation of the new setup:
- Xray 600cst and 450cst oils
- Front springs 367 and lower attachment point is #3 (outer)
- rubber car lower and upper chassis
- front brace is the U with post installed
- 17.5t

I didn't have a caliper, but using shims of known thickness it seemed that the 6.2mm hexes are the +1mm hexes.
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Old 02-03-2010, 09:02 PM
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As general musing on the Photon, I'm finding that the car generally feels the same and has nearly infinite rear traction. I've tried nearly every setup change possible, and most of the multiple times, and it's just hard to make the car flat out bad.

Larry or Jason, can you guys test for where your car's front/rear balance point is? Use a ruler or a caliper as an edge to set across the bottom of the chassis (move back and forward until the car balances), then measure where that point is relative to some landmark on the car's lower chassis plate. Josh raised this a long time ago, but I've never played with it because I've never had the symptom Josh mentioned (loose car).
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It seems as if my car's f/r balance point is about 2.5cm in front of the forward most part of the cutouts under the motor.
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Old 02-05-2010, 07:40 PM
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Speedtech has rubber kits and parts soon to follow for people looking for another place to get them.
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Originally Posted by Brian L
Speedtech has rubber kits and parts soon to follow for people looking for another place to get them.
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does anyone know what dcj will fit the car?
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Originally Posted by racer x 1
does anyone know what dcj will fit the car?
The 416 Atomic ones will fit with a touch of a modification to the wheel hex. But they arn't exactly the most reliable thing in the world.

The HB ones will work with a mod to the spool outdrive, although I would say they are your most reliable bet.
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Originally Posted by smoke81
The 416 Atomic ones will fit with a touch of a modification to the wheel hex. But they arn't exactly the most reliable thing in the world.

The HB ones will work with a mod to the spool outdrive, although I would say they are your most reliable bet.
ive heard that the spec r ones will fit, can anyone confirm this?
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