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Old 03-04-2009, 04:05 AM   #1
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Hi everyone

I'm after some advice, or rather just interested to hear your own personal methods....

Before we start, I'm well aware that the methods may well be different for different types of tire, track, track condition etc etc and that this is also a useful tuning aid....

So basically I'm looking for what is your 'usual' or starting point for additiving and warming your tires - for ASPHALT outdoor circuits please.

Do you clean the tire first (and if so, what with)?
What additive do you use?
Do you put tire warmers on straight after applying additive?
What temperature?
And for how long?

Thanks for any replies - just interested to see the different methods!

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I recently purchased a set of the Trinity digital warmers, and although I haven't tried them at the track yet, I have played with them on the bench (indoors at room temp) and discovered a couple of interesting things: Even with the temp on the controller turned up almost all the way (running from a 12V power supply) the tires pretty much peaked at around 135-140* F. Also, the tires fell off to 100* F give or take in less than a minute, but stayed in the 90-100* range for around 3 1/2 minutes. This was after a good 15-20 minutes with the warmers on, so I'm assuming the heat retention is dependent on getting the tires *and* inserts warm all the way through. Note that this is without additive, and the tires I was experimenting with were RP-30's. I'd like to try heating the tires to 100* F and seeing if they stay there as long as they did when heated to 130-140. If they do, I really don't see much point in going any hotter than 100* since chances are you are going to spend at least a minute on the grid waiting on slow drivers/marshals/race director/etc.

Like I said...this is all bench testing...haven't put a warmed tire to the tarmac yet!

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Old 03-05-2009, 01:45 AM   #3
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this is my method

1, clean the tyres with brake cleaner

2, add tyre additive to all rear tyres (LRP)

3, cover with white paper towel (stops the dust sticking to them)

4, half hour before my race i add tyre additive to all 4 tyres

5, cover them in white paper towel (protects my tyre warmers)

6, put my tyre warmers on FULL POWER straight after the additive (much more with regulator)

7, just before race take the tyre warmers off wipe excessive additive off and race

I used the much more tyre warmers as i had borrowed some from a friend and they were really good , but i think all makes are as good as each other
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Clean tire with WD40, Buggy grip or other cleaner.......NEVER USE MOTOR SPRAY OR BRAKE CLEANER, as it removes oil until it is clean

Apply traction compound

Tire warmer on with a cloth between the tires and the cup

Warm for about 20 mins

Remove tire warmers and clean the left over oil

Go racing!!
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Clean tire with WD40, Buggy grip or other cleaner.......NEVER USE MOTOR SPRAY OR BRAKE CLEANER, as it removes oil until it is clean

Apply traction compound

Tire warmer on with a cloth between the tires and the cup

Warm for about 20 mins

Remove tire warmers and clean the left over oil

Go racing!!
This is what I have been doing except for the cloth. What does the cloth actually do??
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This is what I have been doing except for the cloth. What does the cloth actually do??
Protects the cup for scratches and stops oil from getting on it, it stops the tire from getting burned and it keeps the tire insulated
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Cheers guys, this is EXACTLY the kind of posts I was hoping for.

Please, keep them coming!

Many thanks
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Clean tire with WD40,
Really ??WD40 ??

is it not greasy ???
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Really ??WD40 ??

is it not greasy ???
Clean them with WD40 , wait about 5 minutes, then apply Buggy grip, let it dry and then hit the track.
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1. clean the tires with simple green.
2. dry with towel
3. apply additive 10 mins before your next run
4. cover the tires with tissue
5. put on the cups
6. set to 60
7. before your run, dry the tires and you're good to go........
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I clean my rubber tires with a product called Goo Gone and once dry I apply traction compound. Brake cleaner is very harsh on the tires and your hands and best to be avoided.
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Really ??WD40 ??

is it not greasy ???
WD-40 is NOT oil nor a grease it is a solvent designed to remove water from guns.

WD - 40 stands for
Water Displacmemt - test #40 (USG test)

1. Clean the tires with simple green or WD-40.
2. Dry with cloth towel
3. Apply additive 10 mins before your next run
4. Cover the tires with tissue (I prefer to use blue shop towles from shucks)
5. Put on the cups
6. Set to 60
7. Before your run, dry the tires and you're good to go........ (If done right then no need to wipe the tires the heat will force the compound into the rubber and the blue shop towel)
8. save the shop towles and reuse untill torn. About 10 to 15 runs.
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I clean my rubber tires with a product called Goo Gone and once dry I apply traction compound. Brake cleaner is very harsh on the tires and your hands and best to be avoided.
+1 Goo Gone has worked the best for me and I've tried wd40,lighter fluid,simple green and brake cleaner.
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