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Old 10-05-2009, 03:28 AM   #1081
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Hi, may i know how u guys measure the front Toe in/out ?

is it measure with setup station, then after that measure the turnbuckle length with caliper again ???

is it after u adjust 0.5deg toe out, will the turnbuckle left n right length same??
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Old 10-05-2009, 03:33 AM   #1082
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kschu: i just use a set up station. i dont check the turnbuckle lengths anymore once they're set to the setting im after.
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Old 10-05-2009, 05:19 PM   #1083
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Hi, may i know how u guys measure the front Toe in/out ?

is it measure with setup station, then after that measure the turnbuckle length with caliper again ???

is it after u adjust 0.5deg toe out, will the turnbuckle left n right length same??
Set turnbuckles (steering rods) to same length. Then, after that, always turn the right side the same amount you turn the left side so that they will always be the same length.

Have you figured out your technical setup yet? I'll post mine up later on. It's the one I ran this past weekend. Worked for me. But Martin will probably scratch his head at it.
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Set turnbuckles (steering rods) to same length. Then, after that, always turn the right side the same amount you turn the left side so that they will always be the same length.

Have you figured out your technical setup yet? I'll post mine up later on. It's the one I ran this past weekend. Worked for me. But Martin will probably scratch his head at it.
i have problem here. after i set my front toe, my left and right length is not same...

if i set d length same, the left n right toe not same....why like this ?

i still figuring the right technical setup for me....
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Old 10-05-2009, 07:22 PM   #1085
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i have problem here. after i set my front toe, my left and right length is not same...

if i set d length same, the left n right toe not same....why like this ?

i still figuring the right technical setup for me....
Uhh.... I don't get it. Set your turnbuckles the same left to right. Make sure you are doing this with your radio off. Adjust your toe with your radio off (make sure you turn the right turnbuckle the same amount as the left so that they remain the same length. Once your toe is set to where you want it, turn on your radio. Make sure your steering trim is set to zero. If your steering is not straight, then adjust your servo horn linkage until your tires are pointing straight. You can use your setup station to make sure your tires are pointing straight with equal toe left/right. Is this what you are doing?
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Yeah Jimmy whatever changes you did in between rounds worked. Your car was on a rail and fast. I think that A-Main had the most wrecks ever, I had my car on it's lid about 4 times. Darn cowbell.
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Uhh.... I don't get it. Set your turnbuckles the same left to right. Make sure you are doing this with your radio off. Adjust your toe with your radio off (make sure you turn the right turnbuckle the same amount as the left so that they remain the same length. Once your toe is set to where you want it, turn on your radio. Make sure your steering trim is set to zero. If your steering is not straight, then adjust your servo horn linkage until your tires are pointing straight. You can use your setup station to make sure your tires are pointing straight with equal toe left/right. Is this what you are doing?
this is how im doing

1. i on my car and gun and steering trim set to 0
2. i make sure d steering ankerman is in middle
3. i set my toe to 0deg using hudy setup. Both is 0 deg.
4. i measure the length left n right steering rod using digital caliper, but the measurement is different?
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Yeah Jimmy whatever changes you did in between rounds worked. Your car was on a rail and fast. I think that A-Main had the most wrecks ever, I had my car on it's lid about 4 times. Darn cowbell.
I almost had TQ, but I had two wrecks that would of set me at 23laps and a TQ. Car felt good. I'm starting to get the feel for it like I did the 416. Your car always looks good. Are you still running my setup on there? I think we should paint the cowbells a little brighter. haha
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this is how im doing

1. i on my car and gun and steering trim set to 0
2. i make sure d steering ankerman is in middle
3. i set my toe to 0deg using hudy setup. Both is 0 deg.
4. i measure the length left n right steering rod using digital caliper, but the measurement is different?
Do it the way I suggested. You are setting steering off your servo. That's not right. You need to keep your radio and car OFF. Set your steering rods the same length. Set toe with same length. Then adjust your servo horn and servo linkage to match your new toe settings.
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I almost had TQ, but I had two wrecks that would of set me at 23laps and a TQ. Car felt good. I'm starting to get the feel for it like I did the 416. Your car always looks good. Are you still running my setup on there? I think we should paint the cowbells a little brighter. haha

Yeah I'm still running your setup. My thing is getting my hp up. I tried alot of different ratio combos. The one ratio that I tried was super fast, but the motor temp was high. Maybe I will try it again but drop about 4 teeth on the pinion. I think that we need to paint them, that one coming out of the chicaine got me ever time.
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Yeah I'm still running your setup. My thing is getting my hp up. I tried alot of different ratio combos. The one ratio that I tried was super fast, but the motor temp was high. Maybe I will try it again but drop about 4 teeth on the pinion. I think that we need to paint them, that one coming out of the chicaine got me ever time.
Just point the car in the right direction, close your eyes and gun it! Works for me!
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HAHAHAHA!!!! I will try that next time. When will Timmie be back? He's missed the last few races.
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Do it the way I suggested. You are setting steering off your servo. That's not right. You need to keep your radio and car OFF. Set your steering rods the same length. Set toe with same length. Then adjust your servo horn and servo linkage to match your new toe settings.
ok, i will try it 2nite...

thanks jimmy
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I almost had TQ, but I had two wrecks that would of set me at 23laps and a TQ. Car felt good. I'm starting to get the feel for it like I did the 416. Your car always looks good. Are you still running my setup on there? I think we should paint the cowbells a little brighter. haha
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Hi martin I just bought a genius gm esc 120, with the last update and I'd like every day at any configuration as a starting point, I will use it with lipos and a passion spedd v3 5.5t engine, the drive is new, you have to make some modification for use with lipos, will have no problems installing it on my bd-5 greetings
have a look at the GM thread, that will help u

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Having never ran a car with the servo mounted like a bd-5/416

I'd like to know why some people have the servo arm directly upwards and some people have it at around a 20 pointing towards the car?

Any reason or advantage for this?
the servo horn always has to be in a 90 angle towards the steering link
this is absolutely curcial!

make sure the wheels are pointing straight forward, then set the steering link length so that the servo horn is at a 90 angle, then trim on the transmitter until the car is running straight

don't change the steering link length as soon as you acchieved the 90 angle
use trim and subtrim on the TX
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