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Old 02-21-2009, 04:20 PM   #1
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I can get a new 415 for USD$310 or the 416 for USD$480. Is the 416 worth the extra nearly 50% cost? Just wondering what the key differences were and should I bother.

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Guys

I can get a new 415 for USD$310 or the 416 for USD$480. Is the 416 worth the extra nearly 50% cost? Just wondering what the key differences were and should I bother.

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If your on a budget, then the 415 is still a great car, and perfectly capable at club level to stick it too the best of them.... however, if your after the fastest ticket around at the moment, then the it has to be the 416.
It might not look hugely different over the 415, but believe me (having run 415's for year, and a 416 for over a year now), they are like night and day. The 416 (properly setup), is so easy to drive fast it's insane, has loads of steering, but also a very locked in rear end... it is massivelt refined over the 415.

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Old 02-21-2009, 04:55 PM   #3
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Thanks Ed.

BTW I really like your site. Learnt a lot. In fact it is one of the reasons tipping me to the 416 so I can use use some of the settup sheets posted there.

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I would have to agree, I have driven a 415 for years and a 416 the past year, and the details that were upgraded on the 416 are pretty much all the mods that people spent a lot of time figuring out how to do on the 415's, but also a few more as well. It really is seemingly easier to be faster with the 416. Also if your planning on running lipo, the 415 lacks in capability compared to the 416. Definitely both excellent cars, but the differences are worth it in my opinion to go for the 416.
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I'll agree with this all as well. Going from 414, thru all of the 415's except the MSXX, and now with the 416. The 416 is just awesome. A key thing is lipo, if you plan on running lipo, then a 416 would be best unless if you can pick up the original version of the 415. The original 415 is the most compatible of all these cars for lipo acceptance.

On a side note, anyone know where I can pick up a 414? My friend has mine (bastard!!) but I would like to pick up one to play with.
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I'll agree with this all as well. Going from 414, thru all of the 415's except the MSXX, and now with the 416. The 416 is just awesome. A key thing is lipo, if you plan on running lipo, then a 416 would be best unless if you can pick up the original version of the 415. The original 415 is the most compatible of all these cars for lipo acceptance.

On a side note, anyone know where I can pick up a 414? My friend has mine (bastard!!) but I would like to pick up one to play with.

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I currently race both every other weekend and have to say the 416WE is woth the extra 50%. But like TryHard said if your on a budget go with the 415MSXX-MRE, it stil a very fast car with the right set-up and driving. I built both cars back to back and you can really tell the evolvement from one to the other. I pretty much have both cars setup identical but like Tryhard said the 416 is alot easier to drive fast!!!
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i own a couple 415's and a 416 worlds edition
the 415 is a easy to drive car but has limitations due to the super stiff rear end
the 416 on the other hand took a completely different settup than the 415, its already pulling faster laps than my 415 and i can still see there being a couple more tweaks
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Every version Tamiya comes out with just gets better... and better

I only have a 415msxx (not the mre) and find it hard to believe how the mre and the 416 will yeald even quicker times when they are dialled in, yet I know they can, seeing a 416 whoop me, lol.

Then again I only race at club level, so the msxx is more than enough for me
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I think sometime later Tamiya will come up with 417. That's the only way to keep their customer spending all times.
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I think sometime later Tamiya will come up with 417. That's the only way to keep their customer spending all times.
You mean like the way XRay keeps coming up with a new one every year?
At least the original 416 can be made into the new WE version with the addition of a few parts.....
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Old 02-25-2009, 05:56 PM   #13
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Thanks guys

You have convinced me to wait and not jump in a get the 415 just because it is a good price. I'll save the pennies and get the 416WE. I'm having too much fun in the lower categories with my TA05IFS to really need to change immediately.

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Thanks guys

You have convinced me to wait and not jump in a get the 415 just because it is a good price. I'll save the pennies and get the 416WE. I'm having too much fun in the lower categories with my TA05IFS to really need to change immediately.

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I think sometime later Tamiya will come up with 417. That's the only way to keep their customer spending all times.
*chuckles* might be a while away. They have had the 415 for 5 years, with 7 editions of it.

I was using the 415 MRE last year, and moved to the 416WE this year, and what a difference. It turns well, and the rear is planted.

The best car I have ever driven was the Evo III Surikarn, I went thru the Evo 5 and then 415 MRE and I could get neither to drive as well. Bring out the 416WE and wow!

As for setup sheets, if your running on Carpet, I have one, it is almost kit setup with a few minor tweeks, been running that all year without a problem. Do a bit of googling and you can find a few websites around that have them, eg
http://www.petitrc.com/reglages/tami...miyaTRF416.htm
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