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Old 02-18-2009, 09:38 PM   #31
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From what I know SpraydbySprague is right. People can buy 30
motors test the rotors and cans(if you dont think thats being done
take my word for it) and come up with the 5 or so best ones.

Of course mixing and matching along the way.

The rest that are sold are not bad just not the top.
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Old 02-18-2009, 09:41 PM   #32
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I have NO inside knowledge whatsoever but I'd be willing to bet that they come straight out of the Trinity box and go straight into whoever's packaging.

That being said, I can think of several things to improve motor performance but they would all involve going through lots of components to find the best ones. End result, lots of left over, expensive and useless parts.
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bill,

I know it's being done. My question is, if they only sell "blueprinted motors" on the website, then you've got 5 good motors out of a batch of 30 or so. What happens to the 25 not as good motors? If they sold a standard version for less $$ I'd understand where the weaker motors were going. But they only offer the blueprinted motor. Do I have to hope I get one of the good 5, but I might get one of the lesser 25?: Those aren't good odds. IF I order a blueprinted motor and I can be assured I get one of the good 5, then where are the others going?

I'm not saying there's no way to get a better motor, I'm just doubtful that the tuners are really mixing and matching then eating the cost of all the weak sisters.
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Old 02-18-2009, 09:51 PM   #34
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The motors that are not the top of the crop end up
being just normal motors. Nothing wrong with them they
run just fine.

People buy them and have no problems. Nor should they.
They are good motors with no problems. Just not the
best there is. Not counting Pulses have no experience
with them.
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I would guess that the 5 or so "good" motors that are obtained are used for team drivers and rest are sold as "blueprinted"... that's my $.02
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I would guess that the 5 or so "good" motors that are obtained are used for team drivers and rest are sold as "blueprinted"... that's my $.02
Now that I can believe.
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Old 02-18-2009, 09:57 PM   #37
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I see what you mean Dave. Guess its the same as brushed.
Have you ever bought a tuned one. Didnt seem any better than
I could do.

Maybe they just say its tuned. I know you can shim them.
besides testing an d switching stuff im not sure
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I agree with RC Dan
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Good to see that brushless evened everything out

Dont get my started on speed controls
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I ran 2 version 2 13.5s last week with zero problems, super smooth power band. Just had to play with gearing and timing for a bit.
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I see what you mean Dave. Guess its the same as brushed.
Have you ever bought a tuned one. Didnt seem any better than
I could do.
I have bought "blueprinted" brushed motors, and I never did get one that was significantly better than I could do with some time and effort. But you and I know what to do... and there is plenty to do to get a brushed stock motor running its best.

I just don't see that much available to do to a brushless motor other than cherry picking the best parts out of a big batcxh and coming up with a few that are a a bit better than the average. But like I said, if they ARE doing that, wouldn't they also sell a "standard" version on their webstore to have an outlet for all the cans and rotors that didn't achieve "blueprinted" status?
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The best thing about being a tuner is you can save the best cans for your team. :-) Not that their value-added services aren't still beneficial, but you're kidding if you think they don't skim the best motors off the top.
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The best thing about being a tuner is you can save the best cans for your team. :-) Not that their value-added services aren't still beneficial, but you're kidding if you think they don't skim the best motors off the top.
What "value added services" are you referring to? No bushings to polish, no commutator to true, no special brush cut or spring setup...

If there IS something being done other than cherry picking, what is it? I don't consider a trick label to be a value added service in any way. And if they're cherry picking the best cans and rotors for the team, then I should make sure to avoid buying from any tuner with a team...
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What "value added services" are you referring to? No bushings to polish, no commutator to true, no special brush cut or spring setup...

If there IS something being done other than cherry picking, what is it? I don't consider a trick label to be a value added service in any way. And if they're cherry picking the best cans and rotors for the team, then I should make sure to avoid buying from any tuner with a team...
Presumably, they won't let you get a REALLY bad motor/rotor, or one that's dead entirely. And pretty stickers!
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Presumably you won't get a really good one either, unless you're on the team.

Also, if Trinity cherry picks first, then ships their cases of OEM motors to the tuners, if you buy a tuner motor you're getting a "twice cherry picked" motor... I'd rather buy a "once cherry picked" variant right from Trinity... better odds that way...
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