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Old 11-12-2003, 11:22 AM   #1
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Default Dyno numbers on 19 turns

Hey,

Can you guys post your dyno numbers for your 19 turn motors set-up for on-road racing?

Our track is going to run 19 turn Sedan class sooon I think and I want o know how these motors perform.

I bought a Epic Binary 19T Outlaw motor and ran it right out of package and I thught it ran well. Maybe the same as the Putnam C2 I usually run. I dynod it and thats where I am lost. I have the data-but dot know what it means-compared to a "killer 19t"-that is.
Heres the data off of the Fantom Dyno:

Power 80
Torque 1.02
RPM 21,000
Spool up 3.5 (I think)

This is set at 36* timing, stock P94 brushes and after three battery packs.
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my Fantom Team 19T new.
was dyno'd at 23,000+ rmp.
haven't done anything to it yet...
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Hmmmmmm-Way more RPM. I should rebuild my C2 and see what it does too.

Where should the Power and Torque numbers be? LIke 90 power and 1.10 torque???? I hope not!! hehehe!!
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I've got TurboDyno #'s - let me know if you need some...

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Old 11-12-2003, 06:54 PM   #5
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Ray,

The current Kisbey 19t D5 I am running has this as the dyno sheets:

rpm: 22,133
Power: [email protected]
Eff: 65.7%@15.7K
Torgue: 132.8 Nmm

The motor I ran at the Region 5 Oval champs ws about 24,000 rpm, 97W power, 71% eff, like mid 120 torq, on the 4.1 screen startup power was 55W, also spool up was like 2.5 or so. Remember this is for a D5 based 19t.

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I haven't dyno'd my 19t, but I will tonight and let you know....this is a stock chamelion 2....not a pro.....I will get you some turbodyno numbers.......
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the number on the dyno sticker came with my chamelion 2 pro looks like a piece of crap compare to everyone's motors....
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Ray...Generally you want something around 100 watts. Those are considered very good. Ive seen them as high as 115 that were legal and 125 that were not legal!!

Torque you want around 1.150-1.200. Spin up around 3.2 or so.

RPM I dont worry about much....You can gear for that. but generally around 23k rpm.

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Thanks everyone!!! All this inof really helps.

Will taking off the P94 brush hoods and going to laydown brushes raise power and torque?
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Default 19t turbodyno numbers

Ray,

Here are some numbers from my 19t chamelion 2 on a turbodyno:

rpm torq watt ef amps
28701 4.4 94 70 19.0
26900 6.2 124 77 23.0
24981 8.0 148 78 27.0
23764 9.7 170 77 31.0
22560 11.1 185 75 35.0
21137 12.9 202 71 40.0

I hope this helps........I have not compared it to any other 19turn motors.

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Ray I've got a C2 built by EA and it made over 94 watts. He knows how to build 'em...
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Big Dog and EA,

What exactly is a C2? Is it an Epic based or what? I would appreciate it..
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Trinity's Chameleon 2 19 turn motors.
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Thanks everyone!!! All this inof really helps.

Will taking off the P94 brush hoods and going to laydown brushes raise power and torque?
That's hard to say, Ray, I've recently made that switch on my ARCOR motor(had been experimenting with the P-94 hoods before I somehow managed to damage one of the hoods to where I couldn't even remove the brush in it). While I haven't had a chance to run it in my car yet, on my Robi dyno, it actually gained some rpm(quite a bit, in fact) & while the power numbers didn't appear to change much(if at all), the spool up time did improve, so I'm optimistic(as soon as the guys at my local track will bone up & run 19 turn class again, they disappointed me last weekend). I'd say it's worth a try....
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Thanks, I have one Do you know where I can get one that is done by someone like putnam or another motor builder?

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