Integy Octane 2 VS Rayspeed EXceed
 

Hello guys just wondering which you think is better, the Octane 2 or the new Rayspeed Exceed discharger ??

What are there Pro's and Con's

Share your experience with them ??

My friend just bought the Exceed and he loves it. The main difference between the two is that when you discharge with the Exceed you will have to plug it in to a power supply to make it work. The second difference is that when you discharge batteries on the Exceed it will actually shut of when the batteries reach safe discharge levels; I think it's .90 cut off. The octane discharges with lights as you know, and you have to watch to make sure your batteries don't stay on too long and discharge too much if your useing Nimh batteries.

I see. I think this ends the story :)

Is there anymore feedbacks ??

what is the discharge rate for the Exceed?

if it isnt 20amps, can some some be changed in it so it does discharge at 20amps?

the indi octane 2 discharger is 20 amp discharge..
and has an 0 volt cut off so u cannot have cells go into reversal. this is useful for dead shortin packs as they need to be at 0 volts.

so basically the integy is a expensive light bulb discharger??

Can you set the cutoff on the rayspeed? does it cutoff at 0 so you can deadshort?

does anyone know what the discharge rate for the exceed is?

The exceed has 5amp discharge at equalizing mode, and 1amp at condition mode. Connecting to the 12v power supply is to power the cooling fan, I think.

does it matter what the discharge amperage is? when racing you pull at least 20amps, so shouldnt you discharge at a high amp rate or is this not a issue with nimhs?

this is one of the things im not sure about.

The exceed is designed for conditioning, not actual discharging.

Oh no
 

You meat to say the Exceed is just like integy's SP saddle pack thing !! But i guess if you have a discharge function like on the CE or integy 16X9 it would not matter. Cause you can discharge at 20amps then slap thme on the exceed so that they get equalised.

Please correct me if i have the wrong idea ??

Exceed specs
 

here's the specs of the exceed

Equalizes and conditions batteries for maxminum performance.
- Input voltage: DC12-14V
- Discharge capability: sub-C single-cell, 3-cell, 4-cell or 6-cell
- Battery compatability: NiCd or NiMH
- Equalizing-Mode Discharge rate: 5A
- Conditioning-Mode Discharge rate: 1A
- Discharge cut-off for NiMH cells: 0.9V
- Discharge cut-off for NiCd cells: 0.1V

caveman is correct! The Rayspeed Exceed is only connected to an external power source when you want to run the fan. Otherwise, the 12VDC cable is disconnected.

no, it has resistors inside it also. a light bulb discharger can also put cells into reversal

I am still a little confused guys. At the moment I discharge a pack at 20A using my 16x9/cdc. What I need now is something that I can equalise to 0.9v/cell for charging and also to 0 so that I can deadshort my stock packs. Which one does both? Is there any indicators or automated cutoff at 0.9 and 0?

You can set the cut off at 0.1v per cell, which is very close to 0v.But I doubt you want to dead short a NiMH cells, it is suposed to be bad for NiMH.

caveman are you refering to the rayspeed or the integy? I have tried some dead shorted packs and it works great at the expense of run time. You should dead short for at least a few days to get any effect and the IR's keep incredibly low

I refer to rayspeed discharger,you can chose either 0.9v or 0.1v cutoff at conditioning mode(1amp discharge). It seems to me everyone has his own way to threat his packs, someone told me to put the packs into freezer for a week and helps to lower the internal resistance. But thanks for the tips, I may try it.

get an equalising tray ooj.. they cost.. but they ensure all cells are equal. get one with a 0 volt cut off, as 0.1 is no good.

thanks for the advice carbon

I think I will get the octane 2. Is that the one you use or recommend?

that it is.. i use it all the time .. and giv it the big thumbs up

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rayspeed discharger 4 cell???
 

How do you discharge 4 cell packs on the rayspeed discharge tray.....??? Where do you place the cells? Thanks

ttt
 

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Re: Integy Octane 2 VS Rayspeed EXceed
 

hi luie...

Pro Rayspeed - .9 cutoff
- looks great

Con - if you're planning to deadshort, this wont work.
- lower discharger rate than the octane 2

Pro - Octane - high discharge rate
- can be used for dead shorting

Con - i personally prefer the .9 cutoff, 0 volt cutoff is a con to me
- not available here.

Re: rayspeed discharger 4 cell???
 

either the left most or right most side of the discharger... just follow the battery bars pictured on the discharger.

Discharge rate isn't important with nimh's since they have (in theory) no memory. The only advantage to higher discharge rate is it's quicker. I have a real time 2.5 and it works fine but you do have to watch it and unscrew contacts when the bulb goes out. The Rayspeed would be the better one for nimh's in my opinion since it can't run the cells down too low

Ooj-To answer your question your charger will discharge at 20 amps to take the pack down to 5.4v/p or .9v/c.
A tray simply takes each cell individually and equilizes them to be even.Now in MOST cases NIMH dont have memory but it's been proven GP3300's do.
GP3300's actually LIKE to be deadshorted.They will gain voltage,lower internal resistance at the cost of 12-25 seconds runtime.This will NEVER hurt you unless running mod sedan,oval.
In all offroad,spec touring,stock touring,or most 1/12th scale it will not affect you in dumping being runtime is crazy now anyway.
The Octane 2 by Integy or the Trinity 2.0 or 2.5 are the ONLY 3 trays safe for Deadshorting being the bring the cell down to 0volts.
The Rayspeed,other integy trays,Promatch tray and others all cutoff at something short of 0 safely.
When using the Octane 2 or Trinity 2-2.5 you dont have to worry when the lights go out due to deadshorting.The resistor will keep them from reversing.
I charge at 6.0amps at a .05 cutoff on my 3300's.If im charging outside I lower the cutoff to .04 or .03 depending on outside temp being 95 or above.Being it's already warm outside it simply cuts the cell off at a safer level.I run the pack.Discharge at 20-30 amps depending the type of racing.The discharger I use either it be a charger with discharging features,Lights with a cutoff or a Integy Reactor all cutoff at .9 per cell.Then I put them on a Octane 2 tray and bring them to 0.I leave them on about 2-3 minutes after the lights go out and solder a wire from positive to negative.Take off the tray and store till the next weekend or every other.The packs have been great and been using them on a regular basis since March.Almost 9 months and strong as ever.
SMC's driver at the october race won with 7 month old packs.Very UNusual for a team driver racing onroad to be using packs with that much use on them.He deadshorts and loves it.As a mainly offroad driver TRUST the Onroad oval guys.They KNOW how to care for batteries.
Hope this helps

Re: rayspeed discharger 4 cell???
 

Re: Re: rayspeed discharger 4 cell???
 

Thanks Demetris, that's what I was looking for. Perfect!

Ronnie