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Old 11-12-2003, 09:56 PM   #16
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Most magazines are biased towards positive analysis of the kits they review. It's very annoying and any faults they find (unless glaring) are dismissed as quirks or due to their driving skills. That's business I guess... can't piss off your advertisers.

Yes and no. We're trying to change this impression out there that every car that comes out is "The best chassis ever that you 100% positively cannot live without!!!". That's not true, and we're realistic about that. At the same time, it's also unrealistic to say something is a complete POS. There is a delicate balancing act that happens. Another problem I find in testing cars out is that some things just don't pop up right away. For example, I tested a gas car when I was writing for a different mag. The car ran pretty well and I gave it decent marks. BUt I only ran like 10 tanks of fuel through it. I shelved the truck for a few weeks, but then took it to my dad's cottage to run around his lot. 3 tanks into my running there, the engine just died for no apparent reason. I tried to restart it, but the compression just wasn't there. When I got home to my tools, I took the engine apart. The Piston and sleeve were shot after 13 tanks, and I run my stuff really rich. I felt bad after rating the truck pretty positively, but this was not something I could have anticipated. This is where a long-term test comes into play.

I think this is a cool concept, and I'll forward it on. To be honest with you, I think it is impractical to list every chassis you have listed here. Go to a race track, what cars do you find. I think most of you would agree it would look something like:

TC3
XXX-S
Yokomo
Schumacher
Tamiya

Once the Pro 4 comes out, you could add HPI to the list. Does that mean the other chassis aren't good? Heck no! But these are the major players that hobby shops have decided to carry. I think that's a shame because you get really good cars that people won't try because the parts aren't available. X-ray is a prime example. I have a T1R I just tested. I like the car, but I'm having problems getting my hands on support parts through the LHS. Because of this, its sitting on my workbench awaiting parts.

Just my 2 cents, and like I said, this will get passed on.

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Old 11-12-2003, 10:30 PM   #17
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I think this is a cool concept, and I'll forward it on. To be honest with you, I think it is impractical to list every chassis you have listed here. Go to a race track, what cars do you find. I think most of you would agree it would look something like:

TC3
XXX-S
Yokomo
Schumacher
Tamiya

Once the Pro 4 comes out, you could add HPI to the list. Does that mean the other chassis aren't good? Heck no! But these are the major players that hobby shops have decided to carry. I think that's a shame because you get really good cars that people won't try because the parts aren't available. X-ray is a prime example. I have a T1R I just tested. I like the car, but I'm having problems getting my hands on support parts through the LHS. Because of this, its sitting on my workbench awaiting parts.

Just my 2 cents, and like I said, this will get passed on.

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Just to play the devil's advocate, I think the XRays and Assassins needs to be reviewed even more exactly for this reason--people don't see them in the tracks as much and know even less about them. However, they sure are interesting because they are winning races in other parts of the world.
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hm... interesting ....
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Me like it.... 415........ but I will stay with my 414MII
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Old 11-28-2003, 07:21 AM   #21
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Rc Car Action did one a year or so ago with 11 cars.
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Car action did this very test like 2 years ago, here's how they formatted it.

-3 testers/drivers
-same electronics, motors, tires, radios
-Tires where the HOT tire for the track being tested on.
-each tester got equal track time with all cars
-all results where based upon feel and actual track times tracked by the AMB system
-11 cars where tested
-- FT TC3
XXX-S
X-Ray T1
TB evo
Pro 3
Corally C4
Academy STR4 pro
Kyosho KX-1
Ofna OB4
Schumacher AXIS 2
Yok MR4 special
-tuning was allowed


There are a few things you guys have argued over that are necessaries for a good head-2-head comparison....

- cars must be tested with stock settings, then tuning should be allowed, so that the reviewer can stated how "dialed" the stock settings where for the track tested on.

- A minimum of 3 drivers/testers with experience of many chassis' is a must, so that each tester has ample experience with what changes effect how....

- The stock set-up should in theory be close enough that changing springs/oil, shock locations, and chamber should be all that is required for tuning, if any more indepth tuning is required it can be done, but MUST be noted in the review. Also the review MUST stated how sensative the car was too each change...

- Reviewers must remain unbiased towards all chassis' and companies.

- Preferrably the test should be done on several race surfaces, and hopefully prepared and unprepared. Asphalt and Carpet.....

- Testers should all be of average skill level concidering (even know we won't admit it) that is where most of us mortals fall....

- The final tests should be done in head-2-head racing situations.
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