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Old 12-30-2002, 10:16 PM
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I beg to differ...i still think a completely hopped-up TL01 will be lighter and quicker than fully hopped up TA04 while both running on silver cans.
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fabolousRC - intersting observation. I'm sure all the theories will be put to the test. I'm personally going to run my 03R in the GT3 series.
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fabolousRC-A completely hopped up TL01. That is something to definitely consider. How about a completely hopped up FF02? It would be interesting to see these cars running in the GT3 class.
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Old 12-31-2002, 07:29 AM
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Mike-Thanks. I tried the RR 48t with a 24t pinion running a Paradox and my motor got really toasty, with the silver can motor you maybe able to use larger pinions. If I am not mistaken, the 50t gear is used for more tight tracks.
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I have the 48 RR in there now, with a 29T pinion. Down to a 4.44 FGR.

Do you know what the internal gear ration is when using the 0.6 gears on the 03, I have a 15T pulley in the front and a 16T in the rear
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2.438 = internal ratio with 0.4 white gears
2.771= internal gear ratio with 0.6 black gears.

For the 03F I use 16T pulley for both front and rear. For the 03R I use the 15T pulley for both front and rear. I haven't really played with different size pulleys.
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Good information, thanks Dayten
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working out the gear ratios with the different pullies is not really worth the hassle

its more about tuneing the car... with the smaller pully on the front you are slightly over-driving the front wheels which will tend to give a little bit better steering under power... the front wheels are pulling the car through the corner
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Originally posted by ShadowAu
working out the gear ratios with the different pullies is not really worth the hassle

its more about tuneing the car... with the smaller pully on the front you are slightly over-driving the front wheels which will tend to give a little bit better steering under power... the front wheels are pulling the car through the corner
yeah, I've seen that, especially with the front one way. The car has plenty of steering
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fabolousRC we have a guy running a decked out TL01 in GT3 and as it is pretty fast it is still no match for a good TA04. TheTL01 is still heavier than most 04's. One guys 04 weighs in a 3 lbs. even and depending on the battery he uses sometimes it weighs even less.

Mike F I'm with you as the 03R is killer. I'm interested in how you do in GT3 against 04's and 414M2's. The guy that wins GT3 every week runs a 414M2 and justs kicks everyones butt every week. The other cars running at this time are just no match for him unless he wrecks a ton and I mean a ton. The other cars are just at a disadvantage in GT3 against a car as good as the new 414M2. Now it is fun to run the 03 and if you beat most of the guys using one you will be the man. I know when I run mine like last year that their were alot of ticked off 04 racers to know they were smoked by a 03. If you do well it is a credit to your driving and setup skills since we really are at a disadvantage using the 03.
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The only reason you should overdrive a 4wd car is if you are running foams with different tire diameters in front that rear and you use overdrive to balance the rollout from front to rear. If you use it for any other reason, you're just adding drag to the car.

If you're referring to GT3 in TCS, the 414 is not allowed in the class, just like in GT2. It's tub chassis cars only. I plan to run my TA04R in GT2 and my TA03FS in GT3. I'm not convinced the TA04 has any advantage over the earlier chassis with a silver can motor. I guess I'll find out!

Dayton, are you planning on racing in the TCS race in Newark in Feb? Should be fun! I hope it doesn't rain.
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Wow a lot of interesting opinions. The GT3 class will be interesting to watch in up coming TCS events.

Psycho-I am not planning on racing in the up coming TCS Race in Newark. My driving skills are really bad. I'll try to make it out and watch at the side lines. I planning to make it to more races this year at RCCAR and Sheldons and concentrate on my TA04 so I will be able to learn how to set it up properly.

I may run my TA03 at Sheldons in the Tamiya 540 class, but looks like they are not allowing double deck chassis, so I need to find a tub chassis first.
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TCS is free and you get free Tamiya stuff just for participating, so I would race if I were you. The whole idea of the series is to get people racing Tamiya cars, so no one really cares how good of a driver you are. Come on out and have fun racing with us. Make sure you're all nice and TCS legal, though. I was told that Jimmy Jacobson and David Jun will be the ones teching cars.

Don't worry about your car for the Sheldons 540 class. The only chassis that are banned are the TA04 and derivitives. There's a guy running a David Jun TA03. The FF is the car to run, though. If you have an FF02, I'd run that car. It's really nice and light.
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OK, I'm getting the impression the TA04 is the way to go but the 03 might hold its own. Now my question, and remember I'm new to Tamiya cars, which TA04 is a tub chassis? And what hop-ups would be required to make it light and handle well. I guess I'm really interested in knowing how much it's going to cost me to be competitive?

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