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Old 08-03-2006, 11:13 PM   #14971
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can't wait to see my buddy's face when he knows about this coz he just bought a complete set of front 1way thinking it would be a nice fit

I am not sure but I believe the housing will fit, its just the Pullies, which all he has to really do is change all the pullies to 35 vs. 36 or vise versa. Or just wait until Tamiya release another housing like they did for the spool. I am uncertain which is the more affordable route....
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Old 08-03-2006, 11:47 PM   #14972
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can't wait to see my buddy's face when he knows about this coz he just bought a complete set of front 1way thinking it would be a nice fit

Your buddy would have to dremel some material off the pully to make it fit.
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Old 08-04-2006, 01:03 AM   #14973
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Simple; Evo5....

Car is up to spec, and already setup for indoor (what with the short arms, see above). Also shaft seems to be suited well too 27t and 19t... belt working best in 19t and mod.

MRE is effectively the latest development of the 415.

Only really two cars in the top spec racing line up at the moment. TRF415 MSX MRE and TB Evo5. the original MSX, I believe, is no longer avaliable (much like the MS varient before it).

MRE is the 4th update to the 415.
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Now if you'd said outdoor... I'd say MRE

(If you haven't guessed have an Evo5 for indoor work, and the MRE on the way to replace the MSX for outdoor )

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Hey TryHard

Can you tell me what changes have to do when start to use MRE in carpetseason with rubbertires?

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Old 08-04-2006, 01:56 AM   #14974
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Can you tell me what changes have to do when start to use MRE in carpetseason with rubbertires?

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Yeah...I'm quite interested to learn too...
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Old 08-04-2006, 03:31 AM   #14975
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Your buddy would have to dremel some material off the pully to make it fit.
An easier way to do it is to shave some material off the bearingholder instead which decreases the width of onewayassembly. This is what we have done when using TA05 pullies.
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Old 08-04-2006, 03:31 AM   #14976
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So would an original TRF415 be ideal for indoor carpet?

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Yep and I have one for sale if you're interested.

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Old 08-04-2006, 03:37 AM   #14977
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Can you tell me what changes have to do when start to use MRE in carpetseason with rubbertires?

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As far as I'm concerned, I wouldn't even think about it. My experience with the MSX is that it doesn't work on carpet. You would need a thicker chassis and probably the old style suspension. Maybe the short arms would help but I'm not sure just this would make the car good enough as in my experience the car is terrible on carpet with rubber. This is basically the only reason why I've switched back to the old 415 (which i'm now selling) for racing on carpet.
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Old 08-04-2006, 03:46 AM   #14978
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Yeah...I'm quite interested to learn too...
Well.... probably would bolt a set of the short LWT arms on, and then pretty much run the carpet setup I was using last year, which is pretty much based on David Spashetts setup.

Shocks;
3 hole pistons with 50 or 60wt oil, No foam in the top (front a little heavier than the rear, due to stiffer spring)
White springs front, blue rear,
Hole 3 in arms (middle one on the long LWT),
Hole 2 on front tower,
Hole 4 rear tower

Camber links;
Hole 3 front bulkhead, 3mm under inner link
Hole 2 rear bulkhead, 4mm under link,
Hole 3 rear hub (outside), 3mm under link (this works brilliantly at getting the rear of the car settled on turn in, if the car feels snappy try lengthening the rear link)

Suspension blocks;
B/A or D/D on the front (B/A if more steering required, D/D if it's too twitchy)
XA/D or X/D on the rear (2.5 or 2 deg of toe)
No shims under any blocks

Wheelbase;
As standard

Dual 1-ways
No roll bars
6 front and 4 rear on the droop gauge
1.5deg camber all round
5mm front ride height, 5.5mm rear

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Old 08-04-2006, 04:05 AM   #14979
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Ok. Thanks

I`ll give a try to change those arms at first. So, do you have part number to those short LWT arms?
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TAM53928 - Short LWT Reversable suspension arms

Best off changing to them first, it shouls be noted that your car will be 2-3mm narrower in track with them on though, so need to adjust camber and steering link back to original. If you want to run the same track width, either adjust the suspension blocks (go wider) or more shims on the axles.

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TryHard, if you run the short arms on the front do you have to use a different size drive shaft say 42mm?
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nope, 46mm is still used on the Evo5, plenty of room left in the outdrives by the look of it.

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TAM53928 - Short LWT Reversable suspension arms

Best off changing to them first, it shouls be noted that your car will be 2-3mm narrower in track with them on though, so need to adjust camber and steering link back to original. If you want to run the same track width, either adjust the suspension blocks (go wider) or more shims on the axles.

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Are you saying use these short arms both in front and in back?
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TAM53928 - Short LWT Reversable suspension arms

Best off changing to them first, it shouls be noted that your car will be 2-3mm narrower in track with them on though, so need to adjust camber and steering link back to original. If you want to run the same track width, either adjust the suspension blocks (go wider) or more shims on the axles.

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Hey

Sorry, i`m newbie about Tamiya. I did`t get it? How you adjust suspension blocks or add more shims to get same track width ?

Are you sure, do i only change those LWT arms front and rear... no swing shafts at all?

Is it easier to change wider hexacons also?

My point is to get my car leagal after that carpet modification
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go to try hard website as it has all the toe blocks listed what you need to do is increase the track width by using wider toe blocks. Really for carpet the original supension is much better and consistant than the std lw supension.
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