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Old 08-03-2006, 05:46 AM   #14941
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I am curious if one of those lucky few with the 415 MR editions could post the part numbers needed to update the older cars to the MR edition (items of interest are the axles, pulleys, center shaft, rear chassis brace, upper deck, steering rack, spool). It appears from all the pictures that it can be done. The lower chassis looks to only need a second set of holes added for the new steering and all other parts seem to be just bolt on upgrades. Thanks

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Old 08-03-2006, 07:00 AM   #14942
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Looks like a nice car HarshGuy , one of these might be in my xmas stockin lol , it's only just around the corner

One for the Brits , i have Aldershot coming up in about 1month (BTCC) and i have no idea of a set-up for there. Anyone by any chance got any ideas for one. I was thinking maybe the Bedworth set-up to start off with

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Old 08-03-2006, 07:22 AM   #14943
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Aluminum collar chingadera is #9804267. ....there's an "addendum" to the manual that has replacement steps to the regular manual for the MRE, along with a parts list of items at the end of it. I'll take it to work and scan it in and post a pdf of it later on today when I get into the office.
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Looks like a nice car HarshGuy , one of these might be in my xmas stockin lol , it's only just around the corner

One for the Brits , i have Aldershot coming up in about 1month (BTCC) and i have no idea of a set-up for there. Anyone by any chance got any ideas for one. I was thinking maybe the Bedworth set-up to start off with

Cheers, Chaz
I'll be doing the national there in a few weeks, so I'll let you know.... doubt it'll be too much different than from what I've been running most the year. No doubt on the Sat I'll compare the std MRE setup with the one I've been using... intrigued by it, as the track is wider (been running B/XA, and XC/B all year so far)

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Old 08-03-2006, 09:12 AM   #14945
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Hi there, any idea which oneway housing to get for the MRE if the MSX one doesn't fit? I'm planning to run a oneway instead of spool.

Also, is there a need to change the aluminium turnbuckles to titanium ones?
The aluminium ones bend easily?

My friend's MSX has problems with the turnbuckles' ball cups popping out after knocks...Are there any 'heavy duty' ball cups by Tamiya or other substitutes?

As for the Oneway I do not believe the part is available yet. I tried ordering through Champ Advisor.....but they did not have the part. As for TI Turnbuckles I would replace the one on the steering link....that is a long reach for Aluminum..it will break if not bend.

The MRE is selling for $400 odd USD at Champs Advisor plus I am not for sure of the shipping but it will be $37 bucks or more the last time I checked. I got mines esle where.....After the preorder or in stock are sold the price might go back up. $489-$530 buck it is not worth this price take my word or very much selling the MSX to Re-purchase!

Here are the Part #s
51104 Short Arms
3454404 Aluminum upper brace/heatsink
9404668 lower deck (the hole are different)
4024004 Upper deck
4304074 Bumper support
9808066 steering arm
3454396 steering bridge
51066 suspension block b
53809 block xb
53685 block a
51068 d
53936 oneway pulley/spool(this is why the TRF415 housing will not work)
3454401 direct holder
9804268 direct cup
9804267 direct coupling covers
52935 ball diff pulley
3455643 spur gear stopper
4354395 direct center shaft
51213 pulley 16t /tao5
9804263 aluminum bearing holder
9804266 steering post
9805776 shaft
53873 damper spacer
53440? white/yellow spring
53440? white/blue spring
9804265 wheel axle
51070 rear stable bar soft black (why)
9808028 front stable bar med black(?)
50589 E-ring x1 (it pretty big)
53586 4x.1mm shim
53906 5x5mm ball connector
Ti screwz
Proform Speed SIX body LW

Most parts will come as a package......I will scan and post later so everyone can get a better look.
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m3: Thanks for your reply. Looks like I will be sitting out with the MRE for a while till the oneway arrives. Tried spool but didn't like it.
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m3ndo5a:
So the MRE comes with both the short and standard length LWT arms??

Cause from that list you posted you say it has the short arms, and in Harsh's picture they are the the standard length versions....

EDIT- that part number is for the standard length LWT arms, not the new short ones
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Old 08-03-2006, 09:54 AM   #14948
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M3, Thanks for the parts list. It appears that it would be possible to use the new diff pulleys with the existing 415MSX center shaft and pulleys. From the pictures I have seen, Tamiya removed every other gear tooth on the diff pulley which required an even # of 36 tooth to start with. Team Losi drivers used to do a similar thing with the belt to reduce the number of contact points.

I supposed the center hole is different on the RE one-way/spool gear which requires a differnet one-way housing. Probably common with the TA05.

Also, just to clarify, are more holes different on the RE chassis than just those supporting the steering post? If the lower bulkheads are the same, I would assume those two where the only ones affected. If that is the case, the new holes could be redrilled and a new upper chassis plate installed.

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Old 08-03-2006, 10:10 AM   #14949
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Im not sure why the One way wouldnt fit? Is the MRE front bulk heads closer together? If its due to the front pulley, its the same bolt pattern as the TA05 pulley, which we've all been using on the 415 one ways. The holes arent set perfect for the 415 one way, you need to shave a little to get the screws in, but it works fine. From what i understand, the only difference between the TA05 pulley we all use and the new MRE pulleys is half as many teeth for less contact. The rest of the dimensions should be the same (Hopefully!)

From memory, the TA05 bolt pattern for the one way pulley is slightly longer PCD than the 415 PCD, which means you need to use a round small hobby file to elongate the holes to get the screws through. at least thats what i did and it works a treat. I got my name down for the MRE, not bothered either way if i get one or not, i truely love my MSX right now. If i do get one, my MSX will be up for sale.... (or about 3-4 other cars to fund the MRE!)
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Old 08-03-2006, 10:20 AM   #14950
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Aluminum collar chingadera is #9804267. ....there's an "addendum" to the manual that has replacement steps to the regular manual for the MRE, along with a parts list of items at the end of it. I'll take it to work and scan it in and post a pdf of it later on today when I get into the office.

"chingadera" - i thought i was the only one that used that!! we'll be at speedworld tomorrow so if you can bring the new ride down, that'd be cool. I was talking with Steve @ speedtech RC and he said that Tamiya America only expects about 20 of the MRE's to reach the US!! Buy em while you can!
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Ebay link to my MSX for sale...

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ME:L:LCA:UK:31

More photos avaliable if required

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"chingadera" - i thought i was the only one that used that!!
I use it all the time!! ...it's such a multipurpose versatile word

...Just got a chance to scan in the MRE insert, so here it is ...comparing the "standard manual" to this insert there appears to be quite a few differences ...they may be "subtle" but differences nonetheless

http://www.arroyoc.com/rcracing/msx_mre.pdf
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Old 08-03-2006, 12:59 PM   #14953
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I am new to the tamiya msx stuff....

Can someone get me up to speed on the differences in the suspension mounts. I understand they are used to adjust front and rear toe angle....but it appears that 3 different type of mounts. Do they change the actual width of the car and also a bridge mount?

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Old 08-03-2006, 01:01 PM   #14954
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What's up "harshman"?

Another RDX > Tamiya convert
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Old 08-03-2006, 01:59 PM   #14955
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Oneway.

You guys are the best at what you do...I am sure someone is going to make it fit. The front bulk head is exactly the same. I tried to ordering the housing from Champ and they informed me that it would not fit..I thought that was good business, because they could have sold it to me and let me find out the hard way.

Chassis

As fas as the chassis goes....the holes are off...depending how ur looking at it. With MRE on top of the old chassis...the front inner suspension block does not line up and from the rear the inner suspenaion block does not line up. Although the old steering post holes line up. And there is one other crazy cut on the Hardware side that has a hole where the ESC would go....almost looks like its here for a Motor Fan Post? Just counting there 5 additional drilled out holes.

Arms

This chassis is using the regular LWT arms..parts number 51104....The evo5 has the HOPS parts number 53928. But if you put both arms side by side they are the same size...it might take you a caliper to tell you different..There are less mounting hole on the Hops and the good thing about the hops is they are cheaper in price....
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