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Old 07-26-2006, 06:14 PM   #14836
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Hey guys, quick question regarding the stock manual set up of an MS. Ive had my MS about 1year and want to revert back to the stock set up as when first built but there are a few issues..

when it says to set the droop screws 1.5mm through the lower arm once the shocks are on the are to short to connect to the lower mounting point making the droop setting useless.

You may say to lengthen the shocks... i did but to keep ride height at the stock height by setting shock collars to 1.5mm and 2mm respectively and lengthening the shocks to fit the slop between the spring and shock cover is now way to much as the perfect amount of play was when shocks were at previous length..

so basically when you all built your car what did you do? am i missing something? as there is no set shock length or droop measurement in the manual and what the manual says wont physically work im a bit stuck. i guess i need to know what you guys did and the measurements you used to set up your car in STOCK mode.

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Go to TeamXray.com it will help you with basic setups. Find the link to the setup manual,,,, On a "droop gauge" play around 6mm front 4/5mm rear...ride height 5mm front 5/5.5 rear. Basic....setup. "Center Lift" 1.5mm Front no more than 3mm rear.....it will change depending on what axle your are running.
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Old 07-26-2006, 06:20 PM   #14837
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I know how to play around with that stuff thats not really what im after... im after the STANDARD set up from the manual.. thats what im trying to do but what the manual says isnt possible due to reasons stated. i know all the theory and i have many set ups.. i just want to go back to the standard one
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Old 07-26-2006, 06:48 PM   #14838
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Ok so does the MRE car come with a ball diff as well as the spool?

If not can you still make a ball diff for the MRE car like the MSX?

Can the Graphite top deck from the MSX fit the MRE?

And Rick or Martin might beable to answer this one better, What all would you need to get to run the car on carpet with foam?

Thanks guys.

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Old 07-26-2006, 07:17 PM   #14839
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Ok so does the MRE car come with a ball diff as well as the spool?
hmm not sure but i got a strong feeling it will be spool only

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If not can you still make a ball diff for the MRE car like the MSX?
i believe so, they are still using the same frontend

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Can the Graphite top deck from the MSX fit the MRE?
nope, the steering posts locations are different from msx
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Old 07-26-2006, 08:05 PM   #14840
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hey rod

i dont think i will be going to the past chumps this year.
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If not can you still make a ball diff for the MRE car like the MSX?
No need to "make" one as Tamiya has released one. Check the RC Champ thread for details.
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yup, as noted above, the car only comes with a locked center, and spool front.
and i read where the alloy front diff has been released in japan, and due here any time.
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Old 07-27-2006, 01:22 AM   #14843
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For carpet racing (rubber tires) buy a regular 415 or the 415 msx.
The MRE is for asphalt racing.
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Old 07-27-2006, 02:23 AM   #14844
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Hey guys, quick question regarding the stock manual set up of an MS. Ive had my MS about 1year and want to revert back to the stock set up as when first built but there are a few issues..

when it says to set the droop screws 1.5mm through the lower arm once the shocks are on the are to short to connect to the lower mounting point making the droop setting useless.

You may say to lengthen the shocks... i did but to keep ride height at the stock height by setting shock collars to 1.5mm and 2mm respectively and lengthening the shocks to fit the slop between the spring and shock cover is now way to much as the perfect amount of play was when shocks were at previous length..

so basically when you all built your car what did you do? am i missing something? as there is no set shock length or droop measurement in the manual and what the manual says wont physically work im a bit stuck. i guess i need to know what you guys did and the measurements you used to set up your car in STOCK mode.

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droop is 5mm at front 4 mm at rear

this is also the best starting point for tarmac racing
run with out the roll bars to make sure your droop is set up correctly though.

If the tyres are over heating due to the track temperature go to hard springs hpi blues or xray light blues which are 20lbs. As this will Reduce mechanical grip.

Also this setup work well with a spool on a tight track.

the LWT dosen't ork on carpet the best rubber setup is spassetts rubber setup which is on tryhards website.

If you use the old supension rhinehards lrp carpet setup is the best to use but don't run a spool in it as there is no front toe out.
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Old 07-27-2006, 11:37 AM   #14845
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Does anyone know if Tamiya has released the alum front diff halves for the 415...unable to locate the release / part number on the website
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MSX/MRE on carpet with foams.

Can the 4mm chassis be modified to accept the new steering rack from the mre?

Are guys running the lw suspension, standard suspension or short evo 5 arms on carpet with foams.

Are any mods to steering knuckles etc needed to accept standard 28mm jaco or parma foam tires?

What the deal with the standard steering rack on the msx is it really sloppy?

Did anyone post a setup from the carpet nats for the msx?
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MSX/MRE on carpet with foams.

Can the 4mm chassis be modified to accept the new steering rack from the mre?

Are guys running the lw suspension, standard suspension or short evo 5 arms on carpet with foams.

Are any mods to steering knuckles etc needed to accept standard 28mm jaco or parma foam tires?

What the deal with the standard steering rack on the msx is it really sloppy?

Did anyone post a setup from the carpet nats for the msx?

You can try the TamiyaUSA website for Marc's carpet setup or look for a setup on tryhard's website.
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MSX/MRE on carpet with foams.

Can the 4mm chassis be modified to accept the new steering rack from the mre?

Are guys running the lw suspension, standard suspension or short evo 5 arms on carpet with foams.

Are any mods to steering knuckles etc needed to accept standard 28mm jaco or parma foam tires?

What the deal with the standard steering rack on the msx is it really sloppy?

Did anyone post a setup from the carpet nats for the msx?
hey Alex slow down

LW suspension will require the Pro4/cyclone steering knuckles to clear the foam tire, new steering rack will work on the 4mm chassis
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i dont think the 4mm chassis will take the new steering without modification, as i hear the posts are mounted farther back... wont know till it gets here for sure...

i see where Hobbymania posted they have them in stock now...
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hey Alex slow down

LW suspension will require the Pro4/cyclone steering knuckles to clear the foam tire, new steering rack will work on the 4mm chassis
Only if you want to run Jaco's. You can run the stock LW suspension with 6mm silver wheel hexes and a red 1mm hex shim for Parma tires. But you must use the A blocks to meet 190mm. Otherwise you'll be too wide.
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