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Old 04-13-2006, 10:37 AM   #13756
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Carpet season is basically over but if anyone's looking for some last thing to try you could try my MSX spool carpet setup. Works really well, easy to drive and stable as a spool car but really good steering. That's just my opinion though, would be interesting to hear another opinion of it. Setup is for rubber tyres.

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I have tried spools before on carpet as well. I have found that the higher the grip the less this approach works,...because as you add power comming out of the corner the car want's to transition too abruptly to oversteer. With lower grip situations, the front tires pulling at the same rate don't has such a dramatic transition. For foam tires this has never really worked for me but for rubber indoor it can work as long as the grip does not get too high. Laptimes with rubber tires are about the same for spool as a one-way (again as long as the grip is not too high). The corner entry seems quicker with the one-way as expected, but I guess I can drive harder ito the corners and be a little bit more precise with the spool (as long as the grip is not too high).
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Old 04-13-2006, 11:01 AM   #13757
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speaking of spools

I've seen pics of Reinhards 415 car with TA05 pulley on front spool.. Which pulley is it??. Diff pulley, Oneway pulley, prototype Spool pulley?... I tried the TA05 Spool pulley on my 415, but the centering hole is too big..

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Old 04-13-2006, 01:46 PM   #13758
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Just checking Martin "as long as the grip is not too high"

Is that the determination for the spool?

Orlando I am running the 05 setup on mine. 1-way on the front with the holes enlarged with a body reamer. You also have to loosen the bulkheads to space them out a touch. You can relieve the pulley a touch to reduce it's thickness. The center hole dia is still large yes but it still self centers with the 3 screws. For the spool you have to relieve the holes to get them to fit, the 1-way is optional but it helps. For the rear I used the standard diff pulley from the 05. Take a look at Lim's car his set-up and conversion were all based off of my car.
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Old 04-13-2006, 03:15 PM   #13759
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Just checking Martin "as long as the grip is not too high"

Is that the determination for the spool?

Orlando I am running the 05 setup on mine. 1-way on the front with the holes enlarged with a body reamer. You also have to loosen the bulkheads to space them out a touch. You can relieve the pulley a touch to reduce it's thickness. The center hole dia is still large yes but it still self centers with the 3 screws. For the spool you have to relieve the holes to get them to fit, the 1-way is optional but it helps. For the rear I used the standard diff pulley from the 05. Take a look at Lim's car his set-up and conversion were all based off of my car.
Thats way to much work for me. Just drive it. You don't need any special tricks Difuser, just look at my car.hehe
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Old 04-13-2006, 06:02 PM   #13760
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finally my posting problem has been solved. im new to the thread and just got my msx a little while ago. ran it at the tcs race in maryland back in march. ran beautiful. 4th in the a main thanx to some setup help from jimmy mac. thank you brother! hope to see you in jackson new jersey. gonna work on a setup for that track. also got the 4mm chassis. its so sweet. im gonna be pissed if that new steering rack comes out. what is a good asphalt setup to start with and what body do most of you run. i was thinking mazda 6 for some steering. thanx for the help.
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If anyone has tried the Mazda6 and the Dodge Stratus All purpose on their 415's could you let me know what your feelings are on the two? Thanks.
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Old 04-13-2006, 06:35 PM   #13762
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Oh there oneway and diff pullys are diffrent from the TA05? I would probably make a spool out of the diff but just to know.

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Old 04-13-2006, 07:15 PM   #13763
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If anyone has tried the Mazda6 and the Dodge Stratus All purpose on their 415's could you let me know what your feelings are on the two? Thanks.
Dodge all purpose will have a loose rear effect The Mazda will have a more stable feel with less steering. I just tried the Pontiac G6 and it steers very well, but you have to add a little rear traction to the car. I am using the bodies on Asphalt..........
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thanx i will try the new dodge and pontiac g6. have you tried any of the ride bodies.
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Thanks Slotmachine. I guess I will get both so I have some more tuning options.
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thanks i will try the new dodge and Pontiac g6. have you tried any of the ride bodies.
I have not tried the ride body`s yet, I think its going to take a while to go through the bodies I have already.
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Thanks Slotmachine. I guess I will get both so I have some more tuning options.
Just be prepared to change the set up a little................
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thanks for the tip.. worked great..
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andbody have a .pdf file of the MSX manual?

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Got back from testing, and the car actually steers and holds the line now , it is very consistant about 0.1-0.3 between the laps at the most

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