R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 04-06-2006, 03:18 AM   #13696
Tech Adept
 
csdspeed's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: CEBU city
Posts: 231
Send a message via Yahoo to csdspeed
Default

Thanks for the suggestions. . My current final drive ratio is 6.56 34T pinion and 102T spur. My stock motor is a T-MAX. Is the ratio alright for this motor for those who have tried this kind of motor? Or should I lower the ratio more?
csdspeed is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2006, 07:22 AM   #13697
Tech Elite
 
t4m1y4niac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 4,309
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by csdspeed
Thanks for the suggestions. . My current final drive ratio is 6.56 34T pinion and 102T spur. My stock motor is a T-MAX. Is the ratio alright for this motor for those who have tried this kind of motor? Or should I lower the ratio more?
try around 6.3...
__________________
SABRE S4 by TOP RACING....
t4m1y4niac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-06-2006, 07:12 PM   #13698
Tech Elite
 
dodo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: the archipelago
Posts: 3,095
Send a message via Yahoo to dodo
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by csdspeed
Thanks for the suggestions. . My current final drive ratio is 6.56 34T pinion and 102T spur. My stock motor is a T-MAX. Is the ratio alright for this motor for those who have tried this kind of motor? Or should I lower the ratio more?
the best is to ask the people at your track on which ratio works best. If you ask me what ratio, i tell you 5.3-5.5 cos that's the ratio the people at my track using. So it really depends on the motor and on the track itself. cheers
dodo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2006, 07:20 AM   #13699
Tech Elite
 
t4m1y4niac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 4,309
Default

guys, i'm desperate with my MSX, the understeer problem is killing me. i'm running rubber (sorex 36R) with a lot of air gap (orion soft inner)-smooth medium grip asphalt-front one way-mid one way pulley-standard anti roll bar-no spacer in camber link front bulk head-2.5mm spacer on rear hub-4' caster-1.5' camber on all wheels-0.5' toe out-40wt 3 hole pistons yellow spring-5mm ride height front&5.5mm rear-9T motor.

please help me to solve my understeer.
__________________
SABRE S4 by TOP RACING....
t4m1y4niac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2006, 07:36 AM   #13700
Tech Master
 
Charles Godwin's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: UK (England)
Posts: 1,129
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default

You could move the front shocks in one hole and move the rear shocks out one hole on the shock towers also shorten the rear wheelbase 1mm.

Charles
__________________
DXR | CML Distribution | Paint by Turnip Paint | TKRgraphics.com
Charles Godwin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2006, 07:40 AM   #13701
Tech Rookie
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Switzerland
Posts: 7
Cool Bumper

Hi.

Look the Bumper !

http://www.rczone.net/files/tamiya/t...eassen0505.pdf

TEAM GONZO
Team GONZO is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2006, 08:15 AM   #13702
Tech Addict
 
Eirik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Oslo, Norway
Posts: 627
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by t4m1y4niac
guys, i'm desperate with my MSX, the understeer problem is killing me. i'm running rubber (sorex 36R) with a lot of air gap (orion soft inner)-smooth medium grip asphalt-front one way-mid one way pulley-standard anti roll bar-no spacer in camber link front bulk head-2.5mm spacer on rear hub-4' caster-1.5' camber on all wheels-0.5' toe out-40wt 3 hole pistons yellow spring-5mm ride height front&5.5mm rear-9T motor.

please help me to solve my understeer.
Try a different bodyshell, Mazda 6 gives allot of steering!!
Removing the swaybars also helps sometimes....

The Orion inserts works really good in Sorex tires, very good balance, but you could also try the Bomber Red inserts or the Hara Grey Ver.2 as they have given me allot of steering. Sometimes too much!!
Eirik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2006, 08:53 AM   #13703
Tech Champion
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: Chicago, IL
Posts: 7,665
Trader Rating: 37 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Eirik
Try a different bodyshell, Mazda 6 gives allot of steering!!
Removing the swaybars also helps sometimes....

The Orion inserts works really good in Sorex tires, very good balance, but you could also try the Bomber Red inserts or the Hara Grey Ver.2 as they have given me allot of steering. Sometimes too much!!
Eirik,

What's up man...finally ran your MSX 3mm/standard suspension setup a few weeks back. With some minor camber link changes it worked real well.

Thanks again.
__________________
Serpent Racing * Speed Passion * Fantom Racing * Windy City Raceway
Nexus is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2006, 11:08 AM   #13704
Tech Fanatic
 
Martin Crisp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Toronto Canada
Posts: 827
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by t4m1y4niac
guys, i'm desperate with my MSX, the understeer problem is killing me. i'm running rubber (sorex 36R) with a lot of air gap (orion soft inner)-smooth medium grip asphalt-front one way-mid one way pulley-standard anti roll bar-no spacer in camber link front bulk head-2.5mm spacer on rear hub-4' caster-1.5' camber on all wheels-0.5' toe out-40wt 3 hole pistons yellow spring-5mm ride height front&5.5mm rear-9T motor.

please help me to solve my understeer.
It is hard to tell if you are running a sway bar front and rear from the description. I will assume front and rear. Also I assume from you description that you are running no spacers on the inside mounting point of the upper links both front and rear.

Some things to try...

Reduce the rear toe to 2.0 degrees if you have not alrady done so.
Add a rear sway bar if you don't use one.
Remove both swaybars..
If the push is on power then reduce the front droop.
If the push is off power then increase the rear droop.
go to .7mm spacer on rear uprights/hubs.

just some thoughts...
__________________
Martin Crisp
Power-Story.com | LearnSetup.com
Martin Crisp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-07-2006, 03:26 PM   #13705
Tech Addict
 
Eirik's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Oslo, Norway
Posts: 627
Default

Hello Anthony,

Well not much is happening here at the moment actually! Indoor season is over and we still have to wait for the snow to melt before we can run outdoors....

Glad the setup worked good for you!!

Noticed you where selling allot of your Tamiya stuff.... whats the reason for that??

Catch you later
Eirik is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2006, 08:22 AM   #13706
Tech Elite
 
t4m1y4niac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 4,309
Default

thanks a lot guys....i already record all the tips from all of you, monday i'll practice again and i'll give a reports. thanks a lot.
__________________
SABRE S4 by TOP RACING....
t4m1y4niac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2006, 08:26 AM   #13707
Tech Elite
 
t4m1y4niac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 4,309
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Crisp
It is hard to tell if you are running a sway bar front and rear from the description. I will assume front and rear. Also I assume from you description that you are running no spacers on the inside mounting point of the upper links both front and rear.

Some things to try...

Reduce the rear toe to 2.0 degrees if you have not alrady done so.
Add a rear sway bar if you don't use one.
Remove both swaybars..
If the push is on power then reduce the front droop.
If the push is off power then increase the rear droop.
go to .7mm spacer on rear uprights/hubs.

just some thoughts...

hai martin, now in my MSX is using yellow front sway bar & red rear sway bar.
about the .7mm spacer, you mean just using .7mm spacer or add .7mm spacer bcoz now i'm using 2.5mm sapcer on my rear uprights. thx a lot martin.
__________________
SABRE S4 by TOP RACING....
t4m1y4niac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2006, 04:35 PM   #13708
Tech Fanatic
 
Martin Crisp's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Toronto Canada
Posts: 827
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by t4m1y4niac
hai martin, now in my MSX is using yellow front sway bar & red rear sway bar.
about the .7mm spacer, you mean just using .7mm spacer or add .7mm spacer bcoz now i'm using 2.5mm sapcer on my rear uprights. thx a lot martin.

Hey,

If you are using a red swaybar on the back, in my experience it does not really do much given it is so thin. I would try the yellow swaybar to get more steering. In terms of the spacers, I was suggesting to just use the 0.7mm spacer on the rear uprights. What if any spacers are you using where the upper links attach to the bulk heads on both the front and back of the car? By the way are you running on carpet or asphalt? Can you run softer rubber?

M
__________________
Martin Crisp
Power-Story.com | LearnSetup.com
Martin Crisp is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2006, 08:37 PM   #13709
Tech Champion
 
Slotmachine's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: Germantown Maryland
Posts: 5,699
Trader Rating: 4 (100%+)
Send a message via MSN to Slotmachine
Default

Sorry for the interruption...............I am looking for the small round pivots that go on the suspension shafts. The pieces that go inside the mounts # 1/a 1/b and so on..................Thanks Guys.
__________________
HOBBYWING NORTH AMERICA /FALCON SEKIDO/ TEKNO RC TEAM/VBC Racing America/VP-PRO RACING TIRES/2010 R.O.A.R. VTA National Champion Driving a T2R PRO/NANO-TECH Batteries Paul Rush
Slotmachine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 04-08-2006, 10:27 PM   #13710
Tech Elite
 
t4m1y4niac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 4,309
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Martin Crisp
Hey,

If you are using a red swaybar on the back, in my experience it does not really do much given it is so thin. I would try the yellow swaybar to get more steering. In terms of the spacers, I was suggesting to just use the 0.7mm spacer on the rear uprights. What if any spacers are you using where the upper links attach to the bulk heads on both the front and back of the car? By the way are you running on carpet or asphalt? Can you run softer rubber?

M
i guess i must buy the sway bar set.i'm not using any spacer on the front bulkhead, bcoz a thought it can eliminate the understeer problem.on the rear bulk head i'm using the standard spacer set up from the book (i forgot how much mm is). on the rear upright using 2.5mm spacer to eliminate the oversteer problem,when using the standard spacer my rear always lose when cornering.

i always running on asphalt. i can't run softer rubber like 32R, 28R or 25R bcoz the track temp is relatively high about 48'C - 60'C
__________________
SABRE S4 by TOP RACING....
t4m1y4niac is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
TAMIYA TRF415 Xray XB8 R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 32 04-04-2008 08:50 PM
Tamiya TRF415 Crashmaster R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 19 12-13-2006 04:48 PM
Tamiya TRF415 MS NIB koabich R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 8 11-11-2005 07:28 AM
F/S Tamiya TRF415 rraden R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 20 06-10-2005 09:02 PM
Tamiya Evo IV or TRF415 TheDevil Electric On-Road 23 10-15-2004 07:27 PM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 02:24 AM.


We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites.
Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net