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Old 03-10-2006, 12:52 PM   #13231
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The 415 is a tank, very durable. I have only ever raced my 415 on outdoor asphalt tracks, in modified, usually 7 & 8 turns motor are used and I have yet to break a part (close to 12 months of racing -thats with LWT susp.). Things wear, I use the LF (Low friction) belts, but as far as taking a good solid hit, the 415 is a car that can take it as good as any other car in my opinion.
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Old 03-10-2006, 04:20 PM   #13232
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I won my first race tonight (at my local club) with the 415msx , racing against 19T cars and i was using a old P2K2 stock motor. Car felt amazing (average lap 9.646 and fastest 8.639) , waiting for the outdoor season to start now.....

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Old 03-10-2006, 04:54 PM   #13233
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does anybody know what LB the tamiya TRF springs are??
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Old 03-10-2006, 08:29 PM   #13234
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Thanks for the opinions.. It's nice to hear that the 415 is winning all around, whether in club races or international races. I'm just waiting for my tc3 to get sold and after that I'm going to decide whether I'd buy a new 415 or a used one. By the way, does the 415 kit (the original version) come with threaded shocks? And what is the difference between the MSX or the newer 415 versions with the original version?
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Old 03-10-2006, 08:36 PM   #13235
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Our track here is outdoor, and rubber tires are used. Most of the racers here use Xray's. Can you give some more opinions about this car? . I have a tc3 and I hate always fxing my car again and again. I even almost lost my patience just today at our race fixing my tc3 that seems to break often.
here is my 415 so that you might get some ideas

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Old 03-10-2006, 08:40 PM   #13236
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Wow nice! Taga philippines rin ka? Ako rin. . What spares do you have for your kit? Because I need to have a basis of what spares I need for the car. As far as I know, getting the low friction belt would be good.
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Wow nice! Taga philippines rin ka? Ako rin. . What spares do you have for your kit? Because I need to have a basis of what spares I need for the car. As far as I know, getting the low friction belt would be good.
the belts will be your best bet me, aside from the belts i also have the arms and front swing shafts as spares just to be sure if in case i have a very very hard crash( as i always do) but like they say its built like a tank sono worries
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Old 03-10-2006, 09:04 PM   #13238
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Thanks. I'll take note of that. . I see that your 415 is MSX. What's the difference between the MSX and MS (or the orig version)? Is the older version still good?
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Thanks for the opinions.. It's nice to hear that the 415 is winning all around, whether in club races or international races. I'm just waiting for my tc3 to get sold and after that I'm going to decide whether I'd buy a new 415 or a used one. By the way, does the 415 kit (the original version) come with threaded shocks? And what is the difference between the MSX or the newer 415 versions with the original version?
Yes the original kit does come with the threaded shocks, although you do only get the plastic collars to make adjustments.

The difference between the versions is quite a lot, but I'll try and run through them for you

415; 3mm thick chassis plate, TA04 style suspension, black belts, Longer (48mm) inner hinge pins

415MS; 2.5mm thick chassis plate, LWT reversible suspension, White belts, Delrin rear diff, lower shock towers, shorter (46mm) hinge pins, blue TRF shocks,

415MSX "Refine 2"; as per the MS, but with the new bulkheads, alloy rear diff, special blue TRF shocks, roll bar adjusters.

There is also a conversion kit avaliable to give the 415 and 415MS the MSX bulkheads, it's actually what I originally brought for my car (it came out before the MSX kit). However it doesn't include the T centre brace or the other MSX bits mentioned.

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Old 03-11-2006, 01:44 PM   #13240
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is there only 1 msx. is the refine 2, just another name for the MSX? thx
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There is no Refine 2 but it was a tentative name for MSX before it released.
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Finally got to run my MSX conversion today and i was fairly impressed. I notice not many of the set ups now are not running the sway bars. The first couple packs i had on yellow sway bars and it was ok, maybe a little twitchy. The last pack i pulled them off and changed nothing else and the car was a little smoother and seemed to carry more corner speed. I also notice a lot of car running white springs.Are these Tamiya or somebody else's? I have been out of tourng cars for almost a year. I bought the conversion for my 415 when it came out and today was the first time it hit the track!
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Old 03-11-2006, 10:23 PM   #13243
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Yes...Those white springs are Tamiya.
List of Tamiyas (hard springs)

Soft-Red
Medium-Yellow
Hard-White
Extra Hard-Blue

and there are a few others but they are the mains ones
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Can you tell me if those 2 sets of springs are the same and the only difference is color?

http://www.precisionrc.com/nv/car/pr...oduct_id=27371

http://www.precisionrc.com/nv/car/pr...oduct_id=11766
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Can you tell me if those 2 sets of springs are the same and the only difference is color?

http://www.precisionrc.com/nv/car/pr...oduct_id=27371

http://www.precisionrc.com/nv/car/pr...oduct_id=11766
Yes, the color band on the white spring set is a reference to the older colored spring set.
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