R/C Tech Forums

Go Back   R/C Tech Forums > General Forums > Electric On-Road

Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Old 01-07-2006, 07:04 AM   #12091
Tech Fanatic
 
Tommy Bergfeldt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Sweden
Posts: 979
Send a message via ICQ to Tommy Bergfeldt
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by qwerty
hi. i cant find my manual.

anyone knooe the part number for the front pulley? (just the black pulley, no outdrives required)
51055 is the part number for diff pulley
__________________
JMI Motorsport / Red Bull Racing
HB Cyclone TC - Schumacher CAT SX & Cougar SV
Advanced Electronics - Autopartner.se - Savx - NorthTQ
Tommy Bergfeldt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2006, 08:01 AM   #12092
Tech Elite
 
JimmyMac's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: NC
Posts: 4,443
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default

A friend fitted on a Yokomo BD battery strap onto his MSX... so you might wanna try that.
__________________
M.J. McIntyre

Yokomo YRX12
Tamiya TB03
JimmyMac is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2006, 12:17 PM   #12093
Tech Champion
 
TryHard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Sydney, NSW
Posts: 5,282
Trader Rating: 4 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Charles Godwin
I am wondering what the effects of having the urethane bushings in the shocks (red foam peice 53577) are and having them out and how this effects the handling of the car .

Thanks, Charles
I go this from Dave Spashett.

Tryhard
The foam above the bladder increases pressure in the shock. This can help to make the car react quicker. One because it will allow you to use lighter oil and secondly because the shock will return quicker. I have used this on faster circuits and found it to work well. On carpet i prefer to use no foam and slightly more oil.
David

I'm going to try it myself tomorrow, one set of shocks with 50wt oil, 3 hole pistons, and the foam, and one set with 60wt, 3hole pistons, no foam. I'll let you know how it goes.

EDIT - On the Bench in front of me, it's quite easy to tell the difference between the two sets. The one with foam certainly bounces back quicker, which in turn seems to make it feel stiffer (this was done without any springs btw). I think I'll try it on the track before I make any predicitons
Ed
__________________
| THard.co.uk | Xray | MuchMore |

Last edited by TryHard; 01-07-2006 at 12:38 PM.
TryHard is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2006, 12:36 PM   #12094
Tech Adept
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: STOKE-ON-TRENT, UK
Posts: 134
Send a message via MSN to Grindog001
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by TryHard
I go this from Dave Spashett.

Tryhard
The foam above the bladder increases pressure in the shock. This can help to make the car react quicker. One because it will allow you to use lighter oil and secondly because the shock will return quicker. I have used this on faster circuits and found it to work well. On carpet i prefer to use no foam and slightly more oil.
David

I'm going to try it myself tomorrow, one set of shocks with 50wt oil, 3 hole pistons, and the foam, and one set with 60wt, 3hole pistons, no foam. I'll let you know how it goes.
Ed
where are you trying this? don valley or carpet masters? i will be at the carpet masters if you are there?
Grindog001 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2006, 12:40 PM   #12095
Tech Champion
 
TryHard's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Sydney, NSW
Posts: 5,282
Trader Rating: 4 (100%+)
Default

going to West Bridgeford, for the Schumacher indoor winter series.

Don Valley is the next three weekends on the trot
__________________
| THard.co.uk | Xray | MuchMore |
TryHard is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2006, 01:20 PM   #12096
Tech Master
 
Charles Godwin's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: UK (England)
Posts: 1,129
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default

Thanks TryHard

Charles
__________________
DXR | CML Distribution | Paint by Turnip Paint | TKRgraphics.com
Charles Godwin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-07-2006, 03:59 PM   #12097
Tech Fanatic
 
Sushi Man's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Issaquah, WA
Posts: 753
Send a message via AIM to Sushi Man
Default

Yeah I just got this car (415with some ms parts) WoohHOO

It looks great, I need help with setup tho. Going to be racing in VERY low grip Carpet, (Cant use foams). I need to know shock position maily (ill just go softer on the springs). Thanks you

also we are not allowed to use traction compund either ( its a public community center and they dont want marks ) but i use simple green.
Sushi Man is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2006, 05:32 AM   #12098
Tech Regular
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Au
Posts: 329
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by KilRuf
A friend fitted on a Yokomo BD battery strap onto his MSX... so you might wanna try that.

did he have the get the battery tray (BD-118T MR-4TC BD BATTERY TRAY
) that goes on the bottom aswell?

thanks
qwerty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2006, 09:53 AM   #12099
Tech Regular
 
Crashmaster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Lincs, England
Posts: 363
Default

Evening all,
Got a few questions to ask. I have a std 415 on the way (thks TryHard) nd I'm going to put a MSX conversion kit onto it. Now after having a word with TryHard with regards to tuning parts, I'm about to order the following:

2 x Tamiya 53440 On-road tuned hard spring set 735x2=1470Yen
1 x Tamiya 53685 TRF415 Front bridge suspension mount (A) 662Yen
1 x Tamiya 51067 TRF415 Suspension mount (C) 588Yen
1 x Tamiya 51066 TRF415 Suspension mount (B) 588Yen
1 x Tamiya 51065 TRF415 Suspension mount (A) 588Yen

Are there any other parts that I would be recomended to look at? I;ve had a read though some of the older stuff in the thread, just its abit difficult to find out what I need, lol.
Also, do I need different length driveshafts to run the front A-Bridge (read something about it earlier in the thread).

Cheers all

Dan Chambers
Crashmaster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2006, 10:02 AM   #12100
Tech Master
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SE PA
Posts: 1,547
Trader Rating: 10 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to GroffBall
Default

Has anyone ever tried to put the STD suspension on a MS car. I know the suspension mounts are closer together just wondering if it will work before I start ripping cars apart. I'm grasping for straws trying to get this car to steer on a very high grip asphalt track. Its so sticky your feet stick when you walk. If anybody has an setup advise it would be greatly appreciated I've never been this stumped before.
GroffBall is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2006, 10:15 AM   #12101
Tech Master
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Hayward, CA
Posts: 1,309
Trader Rating: 27 (100%+)
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GroffBall
Has anyone ever tried to put the STD suspension on a MS car. I know the suspension mounts are closer together just wondering if it will work before I start ripping cars apart. I'm grasping for straws trying to get this car to steer on a very high grip asphalt track. Its so sticky your feet stick when you walk. If anybody has an setup advise it would be greatly appreciated I've never been this stumped before.

I have the stock suspension from the original TRF415 on my TRF415-MSX if that helps you any? I use the Stock suspension for carpet racing and the LW suspension for outdoors.
JoeyE is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2006, 12:02 PM   #12102
Tech Master
 
Join Date: May 2003
Location: UK
Posts: 1,244
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by GroffBall
Has anyone ever tried to put the STD suspension on a MS car. I know the suspension mounts are closer together just wondering if it will work before I start ripping cars apart. I'm grasping for straws trying to get this car to steer on a very high grip asphalt track. Its so sticky your feet stick when you walk. If anybody has an setup advise it would be greatly appreciated I've never been this stumped before.
if your running outdoors then stick with the ms suspension set up.
try HPI silver spriongs all round and HPI front hubs,this will give you more steering
__________________
Tamiya
Much More Racing
LRP electronic
Futaba
Speedtechrc
trf racer is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2006, 12:32 PM   #12103
Tech Master
 
Charles Godwin's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: UK (England)
Posts: 1,129
Trader Rating: 2 (100%+)
Default

Ran the car for the first time today, must say that there is a lot to come from it. Qualified 8th in the B and in the final manged to get to 4th . Probably would have qualified higher but due to problems (turn left and it went right ) i qualified lower. Tried the Tamiya spool and i bust an outdrive which was a bit annoyin but tried a 1way and it went better in the final. Car definetly feels smooth to drive and not 'pointy' like the 'X-gay'

Charles
__________________
DXR | CML Distribution | Paint by Turnip Paint | TKRgraphics.com
Charles Godwin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2006, 12:49 PM   #12104
Tech Regular
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: somewhere in the north of england
Posts: 347
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by tryhard
Tryhard
The foam above the bladder increases pressure in the shock. This can help to make the car react quicker. One because it will allow you to use lighter oil and secondly because the shock will return quicker. I have used this on faster circuits and found it to work well. On carpet i prefer to use no foam and slightly more oil.
David
Use to do this on a mates rover metro to lower it (take the air out of the pressure cap) , and make it slide, the good old days of hydro pnumatic supension and weezy 1.4 series ....... Had a few scary moments in that thing.

Any way back to model cars
Smoking motor.. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 01-08-2006, 12:54 PM   #12105
Tech Master
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SE PA
Posts: 1,547
Trader Rating: 10 (100%+)
Send a message via AIM to GroffBall
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by trf racer
if your running outdoors then stick with the ms suspension set up.
try HPI silver spriongs all round and HPI front hubs,this will give you more steering
Its a large indoor asphalt track with forgiving pipes, but I was just thinking about trying the old suspension. HPI stuff is out since its hard to find around here and I'd like to stick with Tamiya Stuff. I'm grasping for straws here I feel like I've been chasing my tail around for the last 2 months with this car. I'm about to go nuts! I went from fighting for the win every week to fighting to make the A.
GroffBall is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
TAMIYA TRF415 Xray XB8 R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 32 04-04-2008 08:50 PM
Tamiya TRF415 Crashmaster R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 19 12-13-2006 04:48 PM
Tamiya TRF415 MS NIB koabich R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 8 11-11-2005 07:28 AM
F/S Tamiya TRF415 rraden R/C Items: For Sale/Trade 20 06-10-2005 09:02 PM
Tamiya Evo IV or TRF415 TheDevil Electric On-Road 23 10-15-2004 07:27 PM



Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -7. It is currently 11:49 PM.


Powered By: vBulletin v3.9.2.1
Privacy Policy | Terms of Use | Advertise Content © 2001-2011 RCTech.net